Talk:Stride Guide - Revision history

Fungor at 18:12, 6 March 2017

2017-03-06T18:12:52Z

Fungor at 14:18, 29 December 2016

2016-12-29T14:18:03Z

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	Misc Wisdom (link/cleanup into existing wiki pages wherever possible, this is a category probably? headings sorted into beginner/intermediate/advanced guides)		Misc Wisdom (link/cleanup into existing wiki pages wherever possible, this is a category probably? headings sorted into beginner/intermediate/advanced guides)
-	-lenses of insight (write out the speedwalks to yathryn, liathry, disco, leah's hill, hmb magic shops, anywhere else that sells them)	+	-Character size weapon breakpoints. find girth for common races, publish methodology for calculating girth. integrate this page [[Weapon_Sizes]]
-	-Lux	+	-Kazarilin this page mostly done. templating out an info page for newbie zeth who need to find racefoo. "Locations and Landmarks by race" kind of thing would be good.
-	-Character size (determine size breakpoints for weapon categories (clawlet, dagger, shortsword, longsword, claymore, greatsword, giant sword), confirm suspicion that size is literally the only check)	+	-Category: Player Activities. Basically wtf do I do in tha game. Write out articles for arbitrage, traveler challenges, Murderhobo Kill Lists etc. Examples of all the progression mechanics, karma, subversion, bond progression, xp etc.
-	offhand/primary/two-handed	+	-Flesh out article about [[Combat]]. people are really bad at figuring this out.
-	-Kazarilin	+	-item availability/acquisition I've made item categories and wrote articles for a fair number of them. Need to work out a way to link back availability for each one.
-	Newbies love these things kaz blades (to be fair, I had exactly the same reaction when I first learned about them)	+
-	they are far easier to manage than they used to be	+
-	but writing out a template page for where to find racefoo would be a good start	+
-	-item availability/acquisition	+
	artefacts, randload/staticload		artefacts, randload/staticload
	useful items that are:		useful items that are:
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	-stance/start incarnation commands		-stance/start incarnation commands
	-filtering		-filtering
-	-kill log
-	what it means, how to manage it etc.
	-Player services		-Player services
	botting		botting

Fungor at 19:00, 7 December 2016

2016-12-07T19:00:25Z

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	Misc Wisdom (link/cleanup into existing wiki pages wherever possible, this is a category probably? headings sorted into beginner/intermediate/advanced guides)		Misc Wisdom (link/cleanup into existing wiki pages wherever possible, this is a category probably? headings sorted into beginner/intermediate/advanced guides)
-	-lenses of insight (write out the speedwalks, yathryn, liathry, disco, hmb magic shops, anywhere else that sells them)	+	-lenses of insight (write out the speedwalks to yathryn, liathry, disco, leah's hill, hmb magic shops, anywhere else that sells them)
	-Lux		-Lux
-	-Character size (breakpoints for secondary/primary/two-hand on obvious weapon types, confirm suspicion that size is literally the only check)	+	-Character size (determine size breakpoints for weapon categories (clawlet, dagger, shortsword, longsword, claymore, greatsword, giant sword), confirm suspicion that size is literally the only check)
		+	offhand/primary/two-handed
	-Kazarilin		-Kazarilin
-	Newbies LOVE kaz blades (to be fair, I had exactly the same reaction when I first learned about them)	+	Newbies love these things kaz blades (to be fair, I had exactly the same reaction when I first learned about them)
-	-item availability/aquisition	+	they are far easier to manage than they used to be
-	artifacts, randload/staticload	+	but writing out a template page for where to find racefoo would be a good start
		+	-item availability/acquisition
		+	artefacts, randload/staticload
	useful items that are:		useful items that are:
	trivially accessible (stuff you can/should totally ask high level players for)		trivially accessible (stuff you can/should totally ask high level players for)
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	-inventory/equipment management		-inventory/equipment management
	keeping, aliasing		keeping, aliasing
-	backpack, cloak of holding, sporran, phole	+	containers and why they are great.
		+	-Nicknames
		+	how/why, useful interactions with aliases
	-stance/start incarnation commands		-stance/start incarnation commands
	-filtering		-filtering
	-kill log		-kill log
	what it means, how to manage it etc.		what it means, how to manage it etc.
-	-Nicknames
-	how/why, useful interactions with aliases
	-Player services		-Player services
	botting		botting

Fungor at 16:07, 7 December 2016

2016-12-07T16:07:36Z

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	-lenses of insight (write out the speedwalks, yathryn, liathry, disco, hmb magic shops, anywhere else that sells them)		-lenses of insight (write out the speedwalks, yathryn, liathry, disco, hmb magic shops, anywhere else that sells them)
	-Lux		-Lux
		+	-Character size (breakpoints for secondary/primary/two-hand on obvious weapon types, confirm suspicion that size is literally the only check)
	-Kazarilin		-Kazarilin
	Newbies LOVE kaz blades (to be fair, I had exactly the same reaction when I first learned about them)		Newbies LOVE kaz blades (to be fair, I had exactly the same reaction when I first learned about them)

Fungor: planning out the format of words I intend to write later.

2016-12-07T15:56:41Z

planning out the format of words I intend to write later.

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	Misc Wisdom (link/cleanup into existing wiki pages wherever possible, this is a category probably? headings sorted into beginner/intermediate/advanced guides)		Misc Wisdom (link/cleanup into existing wiki pages wherever possible, this is a category probably? headings sorted into beginner/intermediate/advanced guides)
-	lenses of insight (write out the speedwalks)	+	-lenses of insight (write out the speedwalks, yathryn, liathry, disco, hmb magic shops, anywhere else that sells them)
-	item availability/aquisition	+	-Lux
-	artifacts, randload/staticload	+	-Kazarilin
-	inventory/equipment management	+	Newbies LOVE kaz blades (to be fair, I had exactly the same reaction when I first learned about them)
-	keeping, nicknaming, aliasing	+	-item availability/aquisition
-	stance/start incarnation commands	+	artifacts, randload/staticload
-	kill log	+	useful items that are:
-	Nicknames	+	trivially accessible (stuff you can/should totally ask high level players for)
-	how/why useful interactions with aliases	+	semi-very rare, low demand (stuff that is worth hanging on to, pre-make character ideas to keep when they turn up)
-	filtering	+	very rare, high demand (endgame economy, not that there really is much of one)
-	helpful player bots	+	-inventory/equipment management
-	equipment resizing (write out the speedwalks)	+	keeping, aliasing
-	The hitlist (targets of interest)	+	backpack, cloak of holding, sporran, phole
-		+	-stance/start incarnation commands
		+	-filtering
		+	-kill log
		+	what it means, how to manage it etc.
		+	-Nicknames
		+	how/why, useful interactions with aliases
		+	-Player services
		+	botting
		+	Trav, aedarene, garlic, poee, ELF, gatherer, ozm/oia/ovg, psihealer/fixer/mindshielder/soothsayer, whatever else I'm missing
		+	-equipment resizing (write out the speedwalks! confirm that one thing)
		+	-The hitlist (targets of interest)
		+	maybe spoilers on how to kill stuff
		+	more likely, general strategies for hard targets
		+	list of big fatties in vague order of difficulty. need input from others

	Quickstart Characters. *write out template for this, make a couple		Quickstart Characters. *write out template for this, make a couple
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	Primer		Primer
-	Manage expectations.	+	-Sell the game while also managing expectations.
-	LS is simple to play, but character setup is overwhelming, many steps need to take before character capable of doing anything etc.	+	established characters easy to play, but character setup is complex
-	extraordinary depth of character builds keeps us interested, but also challenges new players etc.	+	extraordinary depth of character builds is awesome, but there are pitfalls.
-	Asking for help.	+	Aim of my wordtexts is to provide enough information to avoid/embrace those pitfalls.
-	movement/interaction/communication	+	variance in codebase age and what it implies. Tug of war between simulationism-gamification.
-	The other guides, when to read them.	+	-Asking for help.
-	Sell them on quickstart characters	+	-movement/interaction/communication
		+	-link to guides written by not-me, maybe edit them slightly to remove outdated info
		+	-My other guides, when to read them.
		+	-Sell them on quickstart characters

	Beginner in depth (getting started)		Beginner in depth (getting started)
-	Character information and what all the bits and bobs mean	+	-Character information
-	score, development, show command, ratings etc.	+	score, development, show command, combat ratings etc.
-	skills that actually matter	+	specialties, guilds, associations, all the ohmygodoverwhelming stuff
-	training	+	-skills that stand out as immediately pertinent to new players
-	Melee combat	+	-training/ticking
-	momentum! stun/slow, activity	+	-Melee combat
-	attacks, defenses, ratings, combat modes	+	momentum! stun/slow, activity
-	death/dismemberment	+	combat modes, attacks, defenses, ratings
-	useful commands blahblah	+	-death/dismemberment

	Intermediate (What do I do now?)		Intermediate (What do I do now?)
-	Just keep playing	+	-Just keep playing
-	Make your own goals, explore the character space, explore the world, get to hero and restart a few times	+	Make your own goals, explore the character space, explore the world, get to hero and restart a few times
-	WHERE TO DO MURDERS	+	-WHERE TO DO MURDERS
-	Alternative activities that aren't murder	+	This one comes up so frequently. ugh
-	exploration/quests, challenges, arbitrage, pacifism	+	-Alternative activities that aren't murder
-	gear/items that actually matter.	+	exploration/quests, challenges, arbitrage, pacifism
		+	-gear/items that actually matter.

	Advanced (So you want to be a legendary hero)		Advanced (So you want to be a legendary hero)
-	What it takes	+	-What it takes
-	mindset/philosophy, time investment, giving a shit about xp/hour, that kind of thing	+	mindset/philosophy, time investment, giving a shit about xp/hour, that kind of thing
-	obvious caveats apply	+	obvious caveats apply
-	example kill routes	+	-example kill routes
-	Character build examples	+	-Character build examples

-	Aliases reference (a subset of general wisdom, copies? links? of all aliases/speedwalks outlined in other pages)	+	Aliases reference (commands outlined elsewhere in guide, but in raw alias form with short writeups, maybe this is a category that is a subset of misc wisdom)
-	information	+	-information
-	specs, stats, etc	+	specs, stats, etc
-	speedwalks	+	-speedwalks
-	inventory management	+	-inventory management
-	scrollz	+	scrollz
-	lenses	+	-lenses
-	stance/start/whatever	+	-stance/start/whatever
-	loot	+	-loot
-	abilities	+	-abilities
-	kill routes	+	-kill routes
-	whatever else I find in my aliases that might be useful to other players	+	-whatever else I find in my aliases that might be useful to other players

Fungor at 15:17, 7 December 2016

2016-12-07T15:17:22Z

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	rough headings breakdown.		rough headings breakdown.

-	Misc Wisdom (link/cleanup into existing wiki pages wherever possible)	+	Misc Wisdom (link/cleanup into existing wiki pages wherever possible, this is a category probably? headings sorted into beginner/intermediate/advanced guides)
	lenses of insight (write out the speedwalks)		lenses of insight (write out the speedwalks)
	item availability/aquisition		item availability/aquisition
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	Nicknames		Nicknames
	how/why useful interactions with aliases		how/why useful interactions with aliases
		+	filtering
		+	helpful player bots
	equipment resizing (write out the speedwalks)		equipment resizing (write out the speedwalks)
	The hitlist (targets of interest)		The hitlist (targets of interest)
-	Quickstart Characters. *write out template for this	+
-		+
-	Beginner in depth(getting started)	+	Quickstart Characters. *write out template for this, make a couple
-	getting around, interacting with the world, what all the bits and bobs mean	+	the goal is to write a series of commands (and simple instructions hopefully) that run the entire gamut of:
-	accessing stats and information	+	-generating a character (except name/physical features)
-	skills that actually matter right now	+	-donning/keeping/selling starting equipment
		+	-joining guild/assocs.
		+	-assigning specs
		+	-getting to level 2 on exploration
		+	-completing at'lordrith's riddle for level ~10 (branching option to do this manually/skip entirely, quest spoilerz is layme but level 10 newbies less likely to be fukkin shit)
		+	-return to losthaven
		+	Literal copy/paste lists of commands into the terminal, simple instructions like (wait for foo then do the next paste, or repeat until you see foobar)
		+	maybe commit to storing heaps of gold in a particular place to cover the crucial skill intros, questionable if this is feasible.
		+
		+	Primer
		+	Manage expectations.
		+	LS is simple to play, but character setup is overwhelming, many steps need to take before character capable of doing anything etc.
		+	extraordinary depth of character builds keeps us interested, but also challenges new players etc.
		+	Asking for help.
		+	movement/interaction/communication
		+	The other guides, when to read them.
		+	Sell them on quickstart characters
		+
		+	Beginner in depth (getting started)
		+	Character information and what all the bits and bobs mean
		+	score, development, show command, ratings etc.
		+	skills that actually matter
	training		training
	Melee combat		Melee combat
	momentum! stun/slow, activity		momentum! stun/slow, activity
	attacks, defenses, ratings, combat modes		attacks, defenses, ratings, combat modes
-	where to fight
-	quests/exploration
	death/dismemberment		death/dismemberment
-	helpful player bots
	useful commands blahblah		useful commands blahblah

	Intermediate (What do I do now?)		Intermediate (What do I do now?)
	Just keep playing		Just keep playing
-	Make your own goals, explore, make characters, cool stuff, have fun, first couple heroes	+	Make your own goals, explore the character space, explore the world, get to hero and restart a few times
-	Character archetypes	+	WHERE TO DO MURDERS
-	Pacifism	+	Alternative activities that aren't murder
-	Trav challenges	+	exploration/quests, challenges, arbitrage, pacifism
-	Arbitrage	+
	gear/items that actually matter.		gear/items that actually matter.
-	filtering?

	Advanced (So you want to be a legendary hero)		Advanced (So you want to be a legendary hero)
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	obvious caveats apply		obvious caveats apply
	example kill routes		example kill routes
-	Character build examples, styles of play	+	Character build examples

	Aliases reference (a subset of general wisdom, copies? links? of all aliases/speedwalks outlined in other pages)		Aliases reference (a subset of general wisdom, copies? links? of all aliases/speedwalks outlined in other pages)

Fungor at 14:34, 7 December 2016

2016-12-07T14:34:03Z

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	lenses of insight (write out the speedwalks)		lenses of insight (write out the speedwalks)
	item availability/aquisition		item availability/aquisition
		+	artifacts, randload/staticload
	inventory/equipment management		inventory/equipment management
		+	keeping, nicknaming, aliasing
	stance/start incarnation commands		stance/start incarnation commands
	kill log		kill log
-	nicknames	+	Nicknames
		+	how/why useful interactions with aliases
	equipment resizing (write out the speedwalks)		equipment resizing (write out the speedwalks)
	The hitlist (targets of interest)		The hitlist (targets of interest)
	Quickstart Characters. *write out template for this		Quickstart Characters. *write out template for this

-
	Beginner in depth(getting started)		Beginner in depth(getting started)
	getting around, interacting with the world, what all the bits and bobs mean		getting around, interacting with the world, what all the bits and bobs mean
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	skills that actually matter right now		skills that actually matter right now
	training		training
-	fighting (and where to)	+	Melee combat
		+	momentum! stun/slow, activity
		+	attacks, defenses, ratings, combat modes
		+	where to fight
	quests/exploration		quests/exploration
	death/dismemberment		death/dismemberment

Fungor at 14:24, 7 December 2016

2016-12-07T14:24:11Z

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-	just some rough notes.	+	rough headings breakdown.

-	Main guide headings	+	Misc Wisdom (link/cleanup into existing wiki pages wherever possible)
-	Intro: Why, assumptions, expectations	+	lenses of insight (write out the speedwalks)
-	Character Archetypes	+	item availability/aquisition
-	Early game activities	+	inventory/equipment management
-	My first Murder-Hobo, 10-30	+	stance/start incarnation commands
		+	kill log
		+	nicknames
		+	equipment resizing (write out the speedwalks)
		+	The hitlist (targets of interest)
		+	Quickstart Characters. *write out template for this
		+

		+	Beginner in depth(getting started)
		+	getting around, interacting with the world, what all the bits and bobs mean
		+	accessing stats and information
		+	skills that actually matter right now
		+	training
		+	fighting (and where to)
		+	quests/exploration
		+	death/dismemberment
		+	helpful player bots
		+	useful commands blahblah

-	So you want to legend?	+	Intermediate (What do I do now?)
-	Example Builds	+	Just keep playing
		+	Make your own goals, explore, make characters, cool stuff, have fun, first couple heroes
		+	Character archetypes
		+	Pacifism
		+	Trav challenges
		+	Arbitrage
		+	gear/items that actually matter.
		+	filtering?

-	StrideGuide	+	Advanced (So you want to be a legendary hero)
		+	What it takes
		+	mindset/philosophy, time investment, giving a shit about xp/hour, that kind of thing
		+	obvious caveats apply
		+	example kill routes
		+	Character build examples, styles of play

-	Why I write	+	Aliases reference (a subset of general wisdom, copies? links? of all aliases/speedwalks outlined in other pages)
-		+	information
-	Starting Assumptions	+	specs, stats, etc
-		+	speedwalks
-	Aliases	+	inventory management
-	information	+	scrollz
-	specs, stats, etc	+	lenses
-		+	stance/start/whatever
-	speedwalks	+	loot
-		+	abilities
-	inventory management	+	kill routes
-	scrollz	+	whatever else I find in my aliases that might be useful to other players
-		+
-	write out lensbuy aliases	+
-		+
-	stance/start/whatever	+
-		+
-	loot	+
-		+
-	abilities	+
-		+
-	rotation	+
-		+
-	Skills that actually do things	+
-		+
-	kill log	+
-		+
-	Botting	+
-		+
-	Trav Challenges	+
-		+
-		+
-	Character builds	+
-	races/guilds	+
-	HW options	+
-		+
-	RW options	+
-		+
-	Bonds?	+
-		+
-	Travs	+
-		+
-		+
-	1-30 places to kill, things to do.	+
-		+
-		+
-	Trainers, and shops of interest	+
-		+
-		+
-	So you want to make it to 100?	+
-		+
-		+
-		+
-	topica	+
-		+
-	Pacifist	+
-		+
-	Challenges	+
-	exploration/quest/kill/whatever	+
-		+
-	Item aquisition/rarity/value	+
-	RandLoad	+
-	StaticLoad	+
-	SortaNeither	+
-		+
-	Equipment/Keep/resizing?	+
-		+
-	Skills/Specs	+
-		+
-	Training	+
-		+
-	Gold	+
-		+
-	Advancement/what to do?	+
-		+
-	Health/Limb Loss/Death	+
-		+
-	Combat Ratings, stances	+
-		+
-	filtering	+
-		+
-	exploring, info/exa neat stuff	+

Fungor: bleh

2016-12-06T21:50:56Z

bleh

New page

just some rough notes.

Main guide headings
Intro: Why, assumptions, expectations
Character Archetypes
Early game activities
My first Murder-Hobo, 10-30

So you want to legend?
Example Builds

StrideGuide

Why I write

Starting Assumptions

Aliases
information
specs, stats, etc

speedwalks

inventory management
scrollz

write out lensbuy aliases

stance/start/whatever

loot

abilities

rotation

Skills that actually do things

kill log

Botting

Trav Challenges

Character builds
races/guilds
HW options

RW options

Bonds?

Travs

1-30 places to kill, things to do.

Trainers, and shops of interest

So you want to make it to 100?

topica

Pacifist

Challenges
exploration/quest/kill/whatever

Item aquisition/rarity/value
RandLoad
StaticLoad
SortaNeither

Equipment/Keep/resizing?

Skills/Specs

Training

Gold

Advancement/what to do?

Health/Limb Loss/Death

Combat Ratings, stances

filtering

exploring, info/exa neat stuff

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	Misc Wisdom (link/cleanup into existing wiki pages wherever possible, this is a category probably? headings sorted into beginner/intermediate/advanced guides)		Misc Wisdom (link/cleanup into existing wiki pages wherever possible, this is a category probably? headings sorted into beginner/intermediate/advanced guides)
-	-Character size weapon breakpoints. find girth for common races, publish methodology for calculating girth. integrate this page [[Weapon_Sizes]]	+	-Character size breakpoints for weapons. figure out bulk for a couple races, publish methodology for calculating it. integrate this page [[Weapon_Sizes]]
	-Kazarilin this page mostly done. templating out an info page for newbie zeth who need to find racefoo. "Locations and Landmarks by race" kind of thing would be good.		-Kazarilin this page mostly done. templating out an info page for newbie zeth who need to find racefoo. "Locations and Landmarks by race" kind of thing would be good.
	-Category: Player Activities. Basically wtf do I do in tha game. Write out articles for arbitrage, traveler challenges, Murderhobo Kill Lists etc. Examples of all the progression mechanics, karma, subversion, bond progression, xp etc.		-Category: Player Activities. Basically wtf do I do in tha game. Write out articles for arbitrage, traveler challenges, Murderhobo Kill Lists etc. Examples of all the progression mechanics, karma, subversion, bond progression, xp etc.
	-Flesh out article about [[Combat]]. people are really bad at figuring this out.		-Flesh out article about [[Combat]]. people are really bad at figuring this out.
		+	-More work fleshing out items available in game. Not terribly practical, but it's the kind of shit I like to browse on wikis.
	-item availability/acquisition I've made item categories and wrote articles for a fair number of them. Need to work out a way to link back availability for each one.		-item availability/acquisition I've made item categories and wrote articles for a fair number of them. Need to work out a way to link back availability for each one.
	artefacts, randload/staticload		artefacts, randload/staticload
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	botting		botting
	Trav, aedarene, garlic, poee, ELF, gatherer, ozm/oia/ovg, psihealer/fixer/mindshielder/soothsayer, whatever else I'm missing		Trav, aedarene, garlic, poee, ELF, gatherer, ozm/oia/ovg, psihealer/fixer/mindshielder/soothsayer, whatever else I'm missing
-	-equipment resizing (write out the speedwalks! confirm that one thing)	+	-equipment resizing (write out the speedwalks! confirm that one thing about chain resizing)
	-The hitlist (targets of interest)		-The hitlist (targets of interest)
	maybe spoilers on how to kill stuff		maybe spoilers on how to kill stuff