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| - | Some data points about weapons. | + | Some data points about weapons weight. |
| ==Tremendous== | ==Tremendous== | ||
| - | Sinbyen shimmering violet adamantite weapons | + | Name weight geometry given |
| + | *Sinbyen shimmering violet adamantite weapons | ||
| Giant Hammer 172.00 2 across, 12.5 long | Giant Hammer 172.00 2 across, 12.5 long | ||
| Giant Scythe 76.80 0.95 across, 26 long | Giant Scythe 76.80 0.95 across, 26 long | ||
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| Giant Spear 23.35 0.45 across, 31.5 long | Giant Spear 23.35 0.45 across, 31.5 long | ||
| Giant Sword 13.45 0.8 wide, 0.15 tall, 23.5 long | Giant Sword 13.45 0.8 wide, 0.15 tall, 23.5 long | ||
| - | Og Stuff | + | *Og Stuff |
| Giant Iron Hammer 277.50 1.95 across, 12 long (from the smith) | Giant Iron Hammer 277.50 1.95 across, 12 long (from the smith) | ||
| Giant Club 117.00 2.75 across, 23.5 long | Giant Club 117.00 2.75 across, 23.5 long | ||
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| Giant Obsidian Axe 48.75 0.7 wide, 20 long | Giant Obsidian Axe 48.75 0.7 wide, 20 long | ||
| Giant Iron Sword 37.70 0.95 wide, 0.20 tall, 22 long | Giant Iron Sword 37.70 0.95 wide, 0.20 tall, 22 long | ||
| - | Musspleheim | + | *Musspleheim |
| Giant Fiery Steel Mace 292.50 2.20 across, 12 long | Giant Fiery Steel Mace 292.50 2.20 across, 12 long | ||
| ... Hammer 218.50 0.90 across, 12 long | ... Hammer 218.50 0.90 across, 12 long | ||
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| Hlerbani 201.50 2.35 across, 13 long (oak and lodestone mace) | Hlerbani 201.50 2.35 across, 13 long (oak and lodestone mace) | ||
| Eldrsleggja 68.55 2.15 across, 13 long (fiery granite hammer, 1/3rd the weight of other hammers?) | Eldrsleggja 68.55 2.15 across, 13 long (fiery granite hammer, 1/3rd the weight of other hammers?) | ||
| - | Shadow Tower | + | *Shadow Tower |
| - | Ektharnor Gadel 189.00 3.35 across, 21 long (Giant Scourge) | + | Ektharnor Gadel 189.00 3.35 across, 21 long (Giant Scourge) |
| - | Kazarithaxai | + | *Kazarithaxai |
| I'm too small to test. | I'm too small to test. | ||
| ==Great== | ==Great== | ||
| - | Sinbyen black adamantite weapons | + | Name weight geometry given |
| + | *Sinbyen black adamantite weapons | ||
| Great Flail 17.85 0.65 across, 12.5 long | Great Flail 17.85 0.65 across, 12.5 long | ||
| Great Hammer 17.45 0.7 across, 10.5 long | Great Hammer 17.45 0.7 across, 10.5 long | ||
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| Greatspear 8.25 0.3 across, 26.5 long | Greatspear 8.25 0.3 across, 26.5 long | ||
| Greatsword 7.10 0.65 wide, 0.15 tall, 18.5 long | Greatsword 7.10 0.65 wide, 0.15 tall, 18.5 long | ||
| - | Shadow Tower | + | *Shadow Tower |
| Vorpal Blade 3.68 0.65 wide, 0.15 tall, 18.5 long | Vorpal Blade 3.68 0.65 wide, 0.15 tall, 18.5 long | ||
| Magma Maul 21.35 0.95 across, 9.90 long | Magma Maul 21.35 0.95 across, 9.90 long | ||
| Singularity Staff 17.40 0.35 across, 21.5 long | Singularity Staff 17.40 0.35 across, 21.5 long | ||
| Daemonicus Omega 26.55 0.95 wide, 20.5 long (Reanada Halberd) | Daemonicus Omega 26.55 0.95 wide, 20.5 long (Reanada Halberd) | ||
| - | Storm Rock | + | *Storm Rock |
| Bronze Great Flail 28.45 0.60 across, 12 long | Bronze Great Flail 28.45 0.60 across, 12 long | ||
| Bronze Greataxe 27.15 0.85 wide, 12.5 long | Bronze Greataxe 27.15 0.85 wide, 12.5 long | ||
| Mithril Greataxe 8.79 0.65 wide, 14 long | Mithril Greataxe 8.79 0.65 wide, 14 long | ||
| - | LH Grebor's Smithy | + | *LH Grebor's Smithy |
| Iron Greatsword 19.85 0.80 wide, 0.20 tall, 17 long | Iron Greatsword 19.85 0.80 wide, 0.20 tall, 17 long | ||
| ==Medium or whatever== | ==Medium or whatever== | ||
| - | Shadow Tower | + | Name weight geometry given |
| + | *Shadow Tower | ||
| Heavensfire 0.23 0.15 wide, 14.5 long (Longsword?) | Heavensfire 0.23 0.15 wide, 14.5 long (Longsword?) | ||
| Qith's Morning Star 9.95 0.85 across, 5.70 long | Qith's Morning Star 9.95 0.85 across, 5.70 long | ||
| Mithril Spear 5.30 0.20 across, 21.5 long (reanada staticload) | Mithril Spear 5.30 0.20 across, 21.5 long (reanada staticload) | ||
| - | Storm Rock misc | + | *Storm Rock misc |
| Bronze Flail 20.85 0.70 across, 6.40 long | Bronze Flail 20.85 0.70 across, 6.40 long | ||
| Mithril Flail 15.45 0.70 across, 6.45 long | Mithril Flail 15.45 0.70 across, 6.45 long | ||
| - | Hypothesis | + | Hypothesis (read as: my whiny complaint) |
| - | *Hammers are stupidly heavy and it's dumb and upsets me so I want someone to change it. | + | *Hammers are stupidly heavy and it's dumb and upsets me and I want someone to change it. |
| + | *Axe = stick with a heavy blade on it | ||
| + | *Mace = stick with a heavy turd on it | ||
| + | *Hammer = stick with a heavy cylinder on it | ||
| + | *I expect a hammer or mace's weight relative to an axe's to be between 1.0 and 1.5ish? | ||
| + | *If I made a "bigger" weapon for a larger/stronger wielder I'd use a longer haft and a heavier blade/turd/cylinder but expect the weight ratios to stay the same. Unless I was in Azeroth. | ||
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| + | Process | ||
| + | *I collected some weapons and looked at them while holding them. | ||
| Conclusions | Conclusions | ||
| - | *Material obviously plays a huge role, compare Giant fiery steel mace with Hlerbani for a 90kg difference, or adamantite vs. fiery steel weapons. | + | *Material obviously plays a huge role in weight, compare Giant fiery steel mace with Hlerbani for a 90kg difference, or adamantite vs. fiery steel weapons. |
| - | *A lot of weapons don't have distinct haft-materials because lazy, this can affect different weapons more or less based on geometry. | + | *A lot of weapons don't have distinct haft-materials, this can affect different weapons more or less based on geometry. I have no idea to what degree this matters. |
| - | *Weapon size category either has nothing, or very little to do with mass. (this isn't a surprise, but it's dumb is what I'm saying). | + | *Weapon size category either has nothing, or very little to do with weight. (this isn't a surprise, but it's dumb is what I'm saying). |
| - | *Square Cube rule seems to be applying to certain weapons as their dimensions are scaled up in a nonsense way. | + | *Square Cube rule seems to be affecting certain weapons more than others as their dimensions are scaled up. ((Great Hammer) = 2.45 * (Greatsword). (Giant Hammer) = 12.78 * (Giant Sword) lolwat) |
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| + | Not addressed here | ||
| + | *There are a lot of materials that are practically weightless, and that's also dumb nonsense. | ||
| + | *Weapon weight doesn't directly impact ratings while using it (aside from encumbering you), that's also weird. (maybe it does actually, just speculation on my part) | ||
Revision as of 13:43, 12 June 2017
Some data points about weapons weight.
Tremendous
Name weight geometry given *Sinbyen shimmering violet adamantite weapons Giant Hammer 172.00 2 across, 12.5 long Giant Scythe 76.80 0.95 across, 26 long Giant Axe 57.35 1.35 wide, 22 long Giant Flail 72.60 1.03 across, 18.5 long Giant Spear 23.35 0.45 across, 31.5 long Giant Sword 13.45 0.8 wide, 0.15 tall, 23.5 long *Og Stuff Giant Iron Hammer 277.50 1.95 across, 12 long (from the smith) Giant Club 117.00 2.75 across, 23.5 long Giant black oak staff 61.20 1.80 across, 27 long (Bilga, material probably varies) Giant Obsidian Axe 48.75 0.7 wide, 20 long Giant Iron Sword 37.70 0.95 wide, 0.20 tall, 22 long *Musspleheim Giant Fiery Steel Mace 292.50 2.20 across, 12 long ... Hammer 218.50 0.90 across, 12 long ... Axe 87.85 1.40 wide, 21.5 long ... Sword 21.40 0.85 wide, 0.20 tall, 23 long Giant Blackwood Staff 24.35 1.75 across, 27 long Hlerbani 201.50 2.35 across, 13 long (oak and lodestone mace) Eldrsleggja 68.55 2.15 across, 13 long (fiery granite hammer, 1/3rd the weight of other hammers?) *Shadow Tower Ektharnor Gadel 189.00 3.35 across, 21 long (Giant Scourge) *Kazarithaxai I'm too small to test.
Great
Name weight geometry given *Sinbyen black adamantite weapons Great Flail 17.85 0.65 across, 12.5 long Great Hammer 17.45 0.7 across, 10.5 long Greataxe 9.04 0.65 wide, 14 long Greatspear 8.25 0.3 across, 26.5 long Greatsword 7.10 0.65 wide, 0.15 tall, 18.5 long *Shadow Tower Vorpal Blade 3.68 0.65 wide, 0.15 tall, 18.5 long Magma Maul 21.35 0.95 across, 9.90 long Singularity Staff 17.40 0.35 across, 21.5 long Daemonicus Omega 26.55 0.95 wide, 20.5 long (Reanada Halberd) *Storm Rock Bronze Great Flail 28.45 0.60 across, 12 long Bronze Greataxe 27.15 0.85 wide, 12.5 long Mithril Greataxe 8.79 0.65 wide, 14 long *LH Grebor's Smithy Iron Greatsword 19.85 0.80 wide, 0.20 tall, 17 long
Medium or whatever
Name weight geometry given *Shadow Tower Heavensfire 0.23 0.15 wide, 14.5 long (Longsword?) Qith's Morning Star 9.95 0.85 across, 5.70 long Mithril Spear 5.30 0.20 across, 21.5 long (reanada staticload) *Storm Rock misc Bronze Flail 20.85 0.70 across, 6.40 long Mithril Flail 15.45 0.70 across, 6.45 long
Hypothesis (read as: my whiny complaint)
- Hammers are stupidly heavy and it's dumb and upsets me and I want someone to change it.
- Axe = stick with a heavy blade on it
- Mace = stick with a heavy turd on it
- Hammer = stick with a heavy cylinder on it
- I expect a hammer or mace's weight relative to an axe's to be between 1.0 and 1.5ish?
- If I made a "bigger" weapon for a larger/stronger wielder I'd use a longer haft and a heavier blade/turd/cylinder but expect the weight ratios to stay the same. Unless I was in Azeroth.
Process
- I collected some weapons and looked at them while holding them.
Conclusions
- Material obviously plays a huge role in weight, compare Giant fiery steel mace with Hlerbani for a 90kg difference, or adamantite vs. fiery steel weapons.
- A lot of weapons don't have distinct haft-materials, this can affect different weapons more or less based on geometry. I have no idea to what degree this matters.
- Weapon size category either has nothing, or very little to do with weight. (this isn't a surprise, but it's dumb is what I'm saying).
- Square Cube rule seems to be affecting certain weapons more than others as their dimensions are scaled up. ((Great Hammer) = 2.45 * (Greatsword). (Giant Hammer) = 12.78 * (Giant Sword) lolwat)
Not addressed here
- There are a lot of materials that are practically weightless, and that's also dumb nonsense.
- Weapon weight doesn't directly impact ratings while using it (aside from encumbering you), that's also weird. (maybe it does actually, just speculation on my part)
