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January Sixth 2015

[06 Jan 15:35:17] #Neophyte Donut# Hi people!
[06 Jan 15:35:27] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# Welcome :D
[06 Jan 15:35:28] #Neophyte Helper Guardas# Hello there
[06 Jan 15:35:29] #Neophyte Helper Khusavenosaen# hello!
[06 Jan 15:36:29] #Neophyte Donut# I have heard that this game is the equivalent of the Nethack of the MUDS
[06 Jan 15:36:41] #Neophyte Helper Chance# just as grueling, too
[06 Jan 15:37:08] #Neophyte Helper Chance# start with help show to get a bit of an idea heh
[06 Jan 15:37:29] #Neophyte Donut# Yeah, i am actually just rat hunting at the sewers
[06 Jan 15:37:37] #Neophyte Helper Chance# impressive.
[06 Jan 15:37:53] #Neophyte Helper Chance# most newbies get killed by them early on
[06 Jan 15:37:54] #Neophyte Warden Zafyr# Avoid giant rats and skavens. Don't pet the cats.
[06 Jan 15:38:26] #Neophyte Warden Zafyr# That's about the best advice I can give for early game rat hunting.
[06 Jan 15:38:27] #Neophyte Donut# Alright, but what point i can kill the hostile ones?
[06 Jan 15:38:47] #Neophyte Warden Zafyr# The hostile ones? You mean the giant ones?
[06 Jan 15:38:55] #Neophyte Helper Chance# you'll need some training, maybe even some xp from exploration for a few levels
[06 Jan 15:39:03] #Neophyte Donut# Yes
[06 Jan 15:39:06] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# Assuming you're still the starter human character
[06 Jan 15:39:09] #Neophyte Helper Chance# -especially- when it comes to combat, be patient
[06 Jan 15:39:12] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# You're going to want some minor training
[06 Jan 15:39:29] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# Yeah, many of us are non-combat for the first 8-10 levels  [06 Jan 15:39:33] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# Some of us longer
[06 Jan 15:39:39] #Neophyte Donut# I am using the starter character
[06 Jan 15:39:51] #Neophyte Warden Zafyr# You can get to around level 18-20 without entering combat once if you know what you're doing as a human.
[06 Jan 15:39:59] #Neophyte Donut# So, its normal just to be walking around than fighting?
[06 Jan 15:40:13] #Neophyte Helper Chance# also, do not lose your compass
[06 Jan 15:40:21] #Neophyte Helper Chance# help keep
[06 Jan 15:40:38] #Neophyte Helper Chance# although if you do get lost someone can mostl liekly find you
[06 Jan 15:40:46] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# If you can learn the specialty system
[06 Jan 15:40:48] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# You're in good shape
[06 Jan 15:41:23] #Neophyte Donut# thanks
[06 Jan 15:41:30] #Neophyte Helper Chaos# you get experience from exploration once you're outside Losthaven proper (should be getting some from the sewers), which makes 
 that a common approach to getting initial levels
[06 Jan 15:41:45] #Neophyte Helper Chance# the palace to the north is good too
[06 Jan 15:42:02] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# and the shreeking siren
[06 Jan 15:44:56] #Neophyte Donut# What is the shreeking siren?
[06 Jan 15:45:06] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# A ship in southern losthaven
[06 Jan 15:45:20] #Neophyte Helper Chaos# near the sewer manhole
[06 Jan 15:45:32] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# another map south and a few maps east of that
[06 Jan 15:45:56] #Neophyte Donut# Thansk
[06 Jan 15:46:03] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# Any time :)
[06 Jan 15:46:27] #Neophyte Donut# It's kinda funny when your initial character, an guard, has difficulties agains sewer rats
[06 Jan 15:46:52] #Neophyte Helper Chaos# yeeeeah, i gotta work on that
[06 Jan 15:46:54] #Neophyte Helper Pel# A frequent complaint.  Our rats are formidable.
[06 Jan 15:47:12] #Neophyte Helper Chaos# i mean i hope the actual rats explode pretty good when you hit them
[06 Jan 15:47:27] #Neophyte Helper Chaos# but they're notoriously dodgy
[06 Jan 15:47:31] #Neophyte Donut# If Carps can be dangerous in dwarf fortress...
[06 Jan 15:47:38] #Neophyte Helper Chaos# lol
[06 Jan 15:47:49] #Neophyte Helper Pel# I'm surprised you didn't ask why there's a wooden sailing ship and dock with no ocean, sea, or lake nearby.
[06 Jan 15:48:04] #Neophyte Helper Chaos# the mechanical reasons behind the two issues aren't entirely unrelated either
[06 Jan 15:48:09] #Neophyte Helper Pel# The monster rats were occupying your attention, I spose
[06 Jan 15:48:35] #Neophyte Donut# Of course, i need my character do something while we are speaking
[06 Jan 15:48:59] #Neophyte Donut# I imagine a guy stomping rats with a cellphone
[06 Jan 15:49:56] #Neophyte Donut# Chaos, you are one of the creator's of this game, right?
[06 Jan 15:50:02] #Neophyte Helper Chance# that's an understatement
[06 Jan 15:50:08] #Neophyte Warden Zafyr# He's the almighty owner.
[06 Jan 15:50:34] #Neophyte Donut# It must be a lot of work
[06 Jan 15:52:15] #Neophyte Donut# But it's funny that characters have reading skills
[06 Jan 15:52:48] #Neophyte Donut# I have heard that you need like 20 to read every sign posts
[06 Jan 15:53:14] #Neophyte Helper Chance# these days, the wiki has a TON of useful information, too
[06 Jan 15:53:35] #Neophyte Donut# Just like minecraft
[06 Jan 15:56:51] #Neophyte Helper Agun# How goes it nut.
[06 Jan 15:57:17] #Neophyte Helper Agun# You and your dog kicking ass and taking names down in the sewers?
[06 Jan 15:58:10] #Neophyte Donut# Yes yes, i am just doing public service
[06 Jan 15:58:11] #Neophyte Helper Chance# http://wiki.lostsouls.org/Xailor%27s_Speedwalks to get a feel for the overall world size, too
[06 Jan 15:58:19] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Someone has gotta do it.
[06 Jan 15:58:37] #Neophyte Helper Agun# You're going to explode the n00b's head Chance. lol
[06 Jan 15:58:46] #Neophyte Helper Chance# he said nethack, he can take it
[06 Jan 15:58:55] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Nut the best advice I can give is explore.
[06 Jan 15:58:58] #Neophyte Donut# I never played Nethack
[06 Jan 15:58:58] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# wiki.lostsouls.org/Locations_and_Landmarks
[06 Jan 15:59:04] #Neophyte Helper Chance# this is just stuff to glance at so as you go you'll be like "oh ok i get it now"
[06 Jan 15:59:08] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Wander around, if something attacks you probably run.
[06 Jan 15:59:16] #Neophyte Donut# Alright
[06 Jan 15:59:40] #Neophyte Helper Chance# expect to make lots of throwaway characters for testing too, you can have up to 15 or so at once as you go too
[06 Jan 15:59:43] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Exploration will level you pretty fast also.
[06 Jan 15:59:58] #Neophyte Helper Enelle# time to make myself part peanut
[06 Jan 15:59:59] #Neophyte Helper Agun# You've played RPG's before right?
[06 Jan 16:00:22] #Neophyte Donut# Yes, but this one is going to take a lot of work to understand
[06 Jan 16:00:26] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Eh.
[06 Jan 16:00:28] #Neophyte Helper Chance# it's worth it
[06 Jan 16:00:30] #Neophyte Helper Agun# It's very deep.
[06 Jan 16:00:32] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# Yes, it takes time
[06 Jan 16:00:37] #Neophyte Helper Agun# It's not hard persay, just deep.
[06 Jan 16:00:41] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# But once you're in, there's no getting out
[06 Jan 16:00:44] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# No putting it down
[06 Jan 16:00:48] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Heh.
[06 Jan 16:00:55] #Neophyte Donut# Eh, i need a time sink
[06 Jan 16:01:01] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Ok so typical RPG's are level based.
[06 Jan 16:01:09] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Level 20 is better than LEvel 10.
[06 Jan 16:01:16] #Neophyte Helper Agun# LS is Skill based.
[06 Jan 16:01:20] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Not really level based.
[06 Jan 16:01:26] #Neophyte Donut# ok
[06 Jan 16:01:38] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Levels play a part, but they aren't the major determining factor.
[06 Jan 16:01:45] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Do show attributes, or stats
[06 Jan 16:01:52] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Every 10 natural points of a stat you have.
[06 Jan 16:01:56] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Is 1 spec point.
[06 Jan 16:02:04] #Neophyte Helper Agun# So 100 Dex = 10 Dex Specs.
[06 Jan 16:02:15] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Spec=Specialty.
[06 Jan 16:02:16] #Neophyte Donut# spec points is for skill levels?
[06 Jan 16:02:21] #Neophyte Helper Agun# yes.
[06 Jan 16:02:25] #Neophyte Helper Agun# help specialties
[06 Jan 16:02:32] #Neophyte Helper Agun# that's the foundation of advancement in teh game.
[06 Jan 16:02:33] #Neophyte Helper Chance# specialties may take some explianing
[06 Jan 16:02:36] #Neophyte Donut# Yeah, i took a look at this file
[06 Jan 16:02:39] #Neophyte Helper Agun# They are simple.
[06 Jan 16:02:48] #Neophyte Helper Chance# once you get it they are
[06 Jan 16:02:52] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Say you want to be good with a Sword.
[06 Jan 16:02:59] #Neophyte Helper Agun# You want to invest spec points into it.
[06 Jan 16:03:08] #Neophyte Helper Agun# 0 spec = 40 skill cap.
[06 Jan 16:03:13] #Neophyte Helper Agun# 1 spec = 80 skill cap.
[06 Jan 16:03:15] #Neophyte Helper Agun# etc etc.
[06 Jan 16:03:17] #Neophyte Helper Chance# but you need to find a guild or affilaition that gives you spec access to be able to invest spec points in order to train
[06 Jan 16:03:19] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Pretty simple.
[06 Jan 16:03:38] #Neophyte Helper Agun# I'm just sticking with the spec system, then I'll dive into access.
[06 Jan 16:03:43] #Neophyte Helper Agun# See how specs work Nut?
[06 Jan 16:03:54] #Neophyte Helper Agun# You assign your specs to skills that use those stats.
[06 Jan 16:03:55] #Neophyte Donut# Guilds are ones who give you skills, right?
[06 Jan 16:03:59] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Sword uses Dex.
[06 Jan 16:04:02] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Axe uses Str.
[06 Jan 16:04:10] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Dodge uses Dex.
[06 Jan 16:04:13] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Languages use Int.
[06 Jan 16:04:18] #Neophyte Helper Chance# some guilds give skills, some give specialty access, some have powers / spells
[06 Jan 16:04:35] #Neophyte Helper Chance# affiliations are like mini guilds that for the most part aren't exclusive
[06 Jan 16:04:40] #Neophyte Helper Chance# sorry, associations that is
[06 Jan 16:04:41] #Neophyte Donut# ok
[06 Jan 16:04:54] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Guilds and Assocs give ACCESS to skills.
[06 Jan 16:04:57] #Neophyte Helper Chance# if you whois people, you can see what they belong to
[06 Jan 16:05:00] #Neophyte Helper Agun# And sometimes bonus specs.
[06 Jan 16:05:06] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Let's say your a wizard.
[06 Jan 16:05:14] #Neophyte Helper Agun# You're going to probably have crap access in sword.
[06 Jan 16:05:22] #Neophyte Helper Agun# But a Knight will have a lot of access.
[06 Jan 16:05:26] #Neophyte Donut# because you need str
[06 Jan 16:05:28] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# Them wands, though
[06 Jan 16:05:29] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Access is how many specs pionts you can assign.
[06 Jan 16:05:37] #Neophyte Helper Chance# well, you can raise strength as a wizard
[06 Jan 16:06:04] #Neophyte Helper Chance# but the wizard guild you join may only give you access in other stuff, and no access in sword to put specialty points in
[06 Jan 16:06:41] #Neophyte Donut# okay, but to raise this skilss, you need to use them?
[06 Jan 16:06:53] #Neophyte Helper Chance# once you put a specialty point in a skill, you can raise it by either use or training
[06 Jan 16:06:55] #Neophyte Helper Agun# You can raise skills by using them or training.
[06 Jan 16:07:13] #Neophyte Helper Agun# The higher your cap is from your current skill the faster it'll go up.
[06 Jan 16:07:17] #Neophyte Helper Chance# you can raise them up to 40 generally without spec points invested in them, but after that requires the levels listed on help  
 specialties
[06 Jan 16:07:21] #Neophyte Helper Agun# So let's say you have a spec 3 in Sword.
[06 Jan 16:07:30] #Neophyte Helper Agun# That's 150 cap.
[06 Jan 16:07:33] #Neophyte Helper Agun# ANd your sword is 20.
[06 Jan 16:07:42] #Neophyte Helper Agun# It'll go up pretty fast as you use and train it.
[06 Jan 16:07:49] #Neophyte Helper Agun# But if your spec is 1, so cap 80.
[06 Jan 16:07:51] #Neophyte Helper Agun# It'll go up slower.
[06 Jan 16:07:55] #Neophyte Donut# okay
[06 Jan 16:08:04] #Neophyte Helper Agun# The closer you are to your cap the slower your skill progresses.
[06 Jan 16:08:12] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# Further from ceiling you are, faster you can grow
[06 Jan 16:08:25] #Neophyte Helper Chance# the skill levels aren't really "this happens at x" either, but they go into formulas for doing thing slike attacking / defending 
 for example
[06 Jan 16:08:57] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Type this:
[06 Jan 16:09:00] #Neophyte Helper Agun# set shared alias ss to show specialties $*
[06 Jan 16:09:04] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Then type ss
[06 Jan 16:09:13] #Neophyte Helper Agun# That'll show you the skills you currently have specs in.
[06 Jan 16:09:40] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Also how are you connecting to this game btw?
[06 Jan 16:10:55] #Neophyte Donut# Well, can you repeat the command?
[06 Jan 16:11:10] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Aliases are used to easily repeat a command.
[06 Jan 16:11:22] #Neophyte Donut# I was being flooded by rat texting fight
[06 Jan 16:11:33] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Like type this: set shared alias stats to show attributes
[06 Jan 16:11:36] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Then type stats
[06 Jan 16:11:55] #Neophyte Donut# set shared alias stats to show attributes
[06 Jan 16:12:02] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Not in the newbie line
[06 Jan 16:12:04] #Neophyte Donut# oops
[06 Jan 16:12:04] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Just type it
[06 Jan 16:12:12] #Neophyte Helper Agun# It'll set an alias.
[06 Jan 16:12:14] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Then type stats.
[06 Jan 16:12:28] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Aliases are very very very important, let's you do things much quicker.
[06 Jan 16:12:45] #Neophyte Helper Agun# type score, that's your character sheet
[06 Jan 16:13:03] #Neophyte Donut# yes
[06 Jan 16:13:51] #Neophyte Donut# I forgot how to see the inventory
[06 Jan 16:13:55] #Neophyte Helper Agun# i
[06 Jan 16:14:10] #Neophyte Helper Agun# type this: set shared alias sl to show limbs
[06 Jan 16:14:13] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Then type sl
[06 Jan 16:14:23] #Neophyte Helper Agun# That will shw you your limb health and what you're wearing/wielding per limb.
[06 Jan 16:14:41] #Neophyte Donut# Why shared?
[06 Jan 16:14:49] #Neophyte Helper Chance# so all your characters on your atman will have it
[06 Jan 16:14:52] #Neophyte Helper Agun# That way when you create another char you can use the alias with them.
[06 Jan 16:15:03] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Sometimes you don't want it shared, like if it's specific for this char.
[06 Jan 16:15:05] #Neophyte Helper Chance# otherwise they are character specific
[06 Jan 16:15:11] #Neophyte Helper Agun# But for the ones I'm giving you it's good to have them global.
[06 Jan 16:15:16] #Neophyte Donut# okay
[06 Jan 16:22:43] #Neophyte Donut# I have noticied that attacks are automatic, but spells don't
[06 Jan 16:23:10] #Neophyte Helper Chance# it depends on what sort of spells really
[06 Jan 16:23:12] #Neophyte Donut# Is melee' characters gameplay stays that way for the whole game?
[06 Jan 16:23:29] #Neophyte Helper Agun# There's a significant amount to melee gameplay actually.
[06 Jan 16:23:36] #Neophyte Helper Chance# not  really, you can get maneuvers, and even melee 'guilds' have some augmentations usually
[06 Jan 16:23:48] #Neophyte Helper Agun# You've got effort, type of damage, handedness, strike location, aim.
[06 Jan 16:23:58] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Speed, what maneuvers to use.
[06 Jan 16:24:17] #Neophyte Helper Chance# also, while there are some frameworks,  almost every guild and association is coded completely custom, so don't expect them to  
 play the same at all, there are some similarities but thye really vary
[06 Jan 16:24:19] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Type: set shared alias sar to show attack rating with $*
[06 Jan 16:24:24] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Then type: sar right hand
[06 Jan 16:25:02] #Neophyte Helper Agun# That'll show you all that goes into fighting with your hand, which can vary as you gain more skills.
[06 Jan 16:25:02] #Neophyte Helper Agun# And other thigns.
[06 Jan 16:25:51] #Neophyte Donut# "You are not using any weapon called '*right hand' "
[06 Jan 16:25:59] #Neophyte Helper Chance# $* together in the alis
[06 Jan 16:26:07] #Neophyte Helper Chance# it's a variable
[06 Jan 16:27:01] #Neophyte Helper Agun# You can remove the $* if you want, it's just a habit.
[06 Jan 16:27:11] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Type: set shared alias sar to show attack rating with
[06 Jan 16:27:16] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Then type: sar right hand
[06 Jan 16:27:26] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Or if you're wielding a sword, sar sword
[06 Jan 16:27:56] #Neophyte Donut# I still can't see it
[06 Jan 16:28:51] #Neophyte Helper Agun# type:show alias sar
[06 Jan 16:28:57] #Neophyte Helper Agun# And copy what it comes back with and put it in here.
[06 Jan 16:30:03] #Neophyte Donut# I did it
[06 Jan 16:30:08] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Ok, cool.
[06 Jan 16:30:13] #Neophyte Helper Lyn claps for Donut#
[06 Jan 16:30:17] #Neophyte Donut# It must put the "with"
[06 Jan 16:30:25] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Yes.
[06 Jan 16:30:57] #Neophyte Donut# Thanks guys, you all are fast.
[06 Jan 16:31:11] #Neophyte Helper Agun# lots of mudding experience. lol
[06 Jan 16:31:31] #Neophyte Donut# This one is my second mud
[06 Jan 16:31:41] #Neophyte Donut# But i am up for a challenge
[06 Jan 16:31:47] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Hah, good to hear!
[06 Jan 16:31:53] #Neophyte Helper Agun# The wiki is definitely your friend.
[06 Jan 16:31:58] #Neophyte Helper Chance# once you get rolling and start to figure stuff out, its relaly rewarding
[06 Jan 16:32:05] #Neophyte Helper Agun# I can guarantee everyone on here references it at least once a day when playing.
[06 Jan 16:32:16] #Neophyte Warden Zafyr# Are you kidding?
[06 Jan 16:32:25] #Neophyte Donut# Yeah, but i don't see much about this game on google
[06 Jan 16:32:28] #Neophyte Helper Chance# its on my second monitor all the time
[06 Jan 16:32:28] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Ok, for you Zaf maybe 30 times.
[06 Jan 16:32:29] #Neophyte Warden Zafyr# I have three tabs of the wiki open right now.
[06 Jan 16:32:34] #Neophyte Helper Agun# lol
[06 Jan 16:32:37] #Neophyte Donut# And the blogs are outdated
[06 Jan 16:32:39] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# I average 3-5
[06 Jan 16:32:39] #Neophyte Helper Agun# Wiki is da bomb.
[06 Jan 16:32:59] #Neophyte Warden Zafyr# The wiki is amazing for info on the game.
[06 Jan 16:33:27] #Neophyte Donut# Because you only click for information, no need to type
[06 Jan 16:33:35] #Neophyte Helper Chance# you'll find a lot of old info out there but the wiki is the most up to date, its fairly recent in the grand scheme of things
[06 Jan 16:33:59] #Neophyte Helper Chance# figure the muds 20+ years old
[06 Jan 16:34:43] #Neophyte Warden Zafyr# I believe LS is what? Twenty-five this year? Twenty-six? Iunno, I'll ask Chaos whenever he has a chance.
[06 Jan 16:34:48] #Neophyte Helper Chance# close
[06 Jan 16:35:01] #Neophyte Helper Chance# i think i started in 93 ish
[06 Jan 16:35:09] #Neophyte Donut# In the website it's says is from 1990
[06 Jan 16:35:11] #Neophyte Helper Chance# maybe closer to 95 actually
[06 Jan 16:35:35] #Neophyte Warden Zafyr# Still, it's an ever-evolving game and will likely never be complete, and I think that's what I find truly beautiful about it. 
 It's always evolving.
[06 Jan 16:35:45] #Neophyte Helper Chance nods#
[06 Jan 16:35:48] #Neophyte Helper Kaess# haha.
[06 Jan 16:36:03] #Neophyte Donut# As long he finds fun, he will still put stuff in this
[06 Jan 16:36:25] #Neophyte Helper Chance# there's a decent amount of active developers at the moment too
[06 Jan 16:36:39] #Neophyte Donut# How many?
[06 Jan 16:36:49] #Neophyte Warden Zafyr# Seven?
[06 Jan 16:36:56] #Neophyte Helper Chance# about that I think +-
[06 Jan 16:37:08] #Neophyte Warden Zafyr# It depends on how active Elron and Twilight are.
[06 Jan 16:37:34] #Neophyte Donut# Does the dog gain skills too?
[06 Jan 16:37:46] #Neophyte Warden Zafyr# Twilight's still tweaking in the background, I know that much. Elronuan... Iunno. Haven't seen him lately. And yes, followers can
 gain skills, too.
[06 Jan 16:38:07] #Neophyte Helper Chance# if you info the dog you'll see his xp (i think) as well
[06 Jan 16:38:18] #Neophyte Warden Zafyr# Yes, or use "show companion advancement"
[06 Jan 16:38:46] #Neophyte Donut# Yeah, i like her
[06 Jan 16:38:50] #Neophyte Donut# XD
[06 Jan 16:39:09] #Neophyte Helper Chance# could go vv early on and get a 'real' companion
[06 Jan 16:39:20] #Neophyte Warden Zafyr# I wasn't really paying attention, but did the others go over guilds with you?
[06 Jan 16:39:25] #Neophyte Helper Chance# so at least if you spend a lot of time wandering around it'll help
[06 Jan 16:39:25] #Neophyte Donut# What is a vv ?
[06 Jan 16:39:36] #Neophyte Warden Zafyr# The Verynvelyrae, a guild.
[06 Jan 16:39:37] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# Verynvelrae
[06 Jan 16:39:48] #Neophyte Helper Chance# a guild that can be 'fairly' simple, mechanic wise, or complex, depending on what sort of animal you bond to
[06 Jan 16:39:50] #Neophyte Donut# Rememember guys, i am new!
[06 Jan 16:39:54] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# It's a guild where you can get a pet that grows with you
[06 Jan 16:40:05] #Neophyte Helper Stu# VV is great if he has a big something to take care of him, yeah
[06 Jan 16:40:12] #Neophyte Warden Zafyr# They focus on empathically bonding with terrestial beasts, which turns them into powerful companions that are unique dependent on 
 their type.
[06 Jan 16:40:14] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# It gets skills, it gives you special abilities and access to skills you normally don't have
[06 Jan 16:40:21] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# It's all around fun for pet lovers and newbies alike
[06 Jan 16:40:33] #Neophyte Donut# So, it's like a pet class?
[06 Jan 16:40:39] #Neophyte Warden Zafyr# It's an amazing guild and still needs research done on some bonds. And yes.
[06 Jan 16:40:41] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# Kinda
[06 Jan 16:40:45] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# You pick a pet and you bond with it
[06 Jan 16:40:59] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# Based on the pet you get various boons
[06 Jan 16:41:08] #Neophyte Helper Chance# pretty much, except there's a shitload of pets you can choose from, like you find a real creature out there somewhere that you 
 want (and have the right requirements if necessary) to bond with
[06 Jan 16:41:15] #Neophyte Helper Enelle# spider monkey martial master
[06 Jan 16:41:19] #Neophyte Warden Zafyr# Not all animals can be empathically bound, so keep that in mind. You can't create a bond with a dragon.
[06 Jan 16:41:32] #Neophyte Helper Chance# not to refer to the wiki a lot, but there is some really good info on the wiki about what you can bond and 
 expect from different creatures
[06 Jan 16:41:33] #Neophyte Helper Enelle# but a drake on the other hand
[06 Jan 16:42:09] #Neophyte Helper Lyn# Refer to the wiki a lot, because you should. As much as we can help you. Nothing can really be a better teacher than yourself when you have an encyclopedia full of info
[06 Jan 16:42:12] #Neophyte Helper Chance# so checking out the Verynvelyrae page may be a good idea to start
[06 Jan 16:42:17] #Neophyte Warden Zafyr# Yeah, I suggest reading over the Verynvelyrae-related pages. It'd give you insight into many guilds because more guilds use the same mechanic.
[06 Jan 16:42:41] #Neophyte Donut# Yeah, i will take a look
[06 Jan 16:43:04] #Neophyte Donut# I am just playing time from time and find things myself to keep stuff interesting
[06 Jan 16:43:26] #Neophyte Donut# I may look over the wiki so much that i might forget the game
[06 Jan 16:43:35] #Neophyte Helper Chance# heh, it's easy to
[06 Jan 16:44:24] #Neophyte Donut# Yeah, this is like an exploration game
[06 Jan 16:44:46] #Neophyte Helper Chance# with the map the way it is now, that's a big part of it
[06 Jan 16:45:17] #Neophyte Helper Chance# also, while your palling around losthaven, 'help arbitrage'
[06 Jan 16:45:29] #Neophyte Helper Chance# good way to do something thats not fighting for some money and exp, and you can get some early trains with it