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okay after looking into it, believe it or not, this is a quasi-deliberate feature of thought process keys. it's supposed to be a fully general mechanism. so if you have two things keyed to "visualize a square", then they will both happen. but in this particular case it's kind of weird that they should both be keyed, since there is some semantic ambiguity... i'll look into changing the syntax for one of them (probably stormlord to "bring" the lightning or something). [[User:Msb|Msb]] 09:01, 9 February 2010 (EST) okay after looking into it, believe it or not, this is a quasi-deliberate feature of thought process keys. it's supposed to be a fully general mechanism. so if you have two things keyed to "visualize a square", then they will both happen. but in this particular case it's kind of weird that they should both be keyed, since there is some semantic ambiguity... i'll look into changing the syntax for one of them (probably stormlord to "bring" the lightning or something). [[User:Msb|Msb]] 09:01, 9 February 2010 (EST)
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 +There was a similar interaction between the Send charm and the Fetch wild talent. "Concentrate on sending my familiar to safety" would send the familiar to safety and also give a message like "You do not have a my familiar to safety." I don't have that character anymore though. I didn't use the Fetch sending much so I don't remember if that popped a message about not having a familiar identified by 'whatever'. --[[User:Fruri|Fruri]] 10:57, 9 February 2010 (EST)
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Problems with empathic bonds, the Zetesai, and the Verynvelyrae

Please report them here. Thanks. Msb 16:46, 27 January 2010 (EST)

Verynvelyrae

Charms

Call Familiar

Looks like the syntax for this collides with stormlord call lightning.
concentrate on calling my familiar vs. concentrate on calling lighnting down upon <target>

can you describe in more detail what happens? Msb 21:13, 8 February 2010 (EST)

It executes both abilities when you try to call lightning.
command: concentrate on calling lightning down upon foo
What foo? You have no familiar identified by 'lightning down upon foo' that you can call in this manner. Gargoyle 06:36, 9 February 2010 (EST)

okay after looking into it, believe it or not, this is a quasi-deliberate feature of thought process keys. it's supposed to be a fully general mechanism. so if you have two things keyed to "visualize a square", then they will both happen. but in this particular case it's kind of weird that they should both be keyed, since there is some semantic ambiguity... i'll look into changing the syntax for one of them (probably stormlord to "bring" the lightning or something). Msb 09:01, 9 February 2010 (EST)

There was a similar interaction between the Send charm and the Fetch wild talent. "Concentrate on sending my familiar to safety" would send the familiar to safety and also give a message like "You do not have a my familiar to safety." I don't have that character anymore though. I didn't use the Fetch sending much so I don't remember if that popped a message about not having a familiar identified by 'whatever'. --Fruri 10:57, 9 February 2010 (EST)

Fox Intangibility

typo: Your body unrarified and returns to a normal density. fixed Msb 21:13, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Katakaleo Geon

See #Katakaleo Hydron Jensendied 03:17, 28 January 2010 (EST)

Katakaleo Hydron

Problems with charms Katakaleo Geon and Katakaleo Hydron result in both of them erroring out when attempting to bring the summon in:

' charm' in 'd/Affiliations/Faculties/Empathic_Bonds/dmn/control.c' ('d/Affiliations/Faculties/Empathic_Bonds/dmn/control') line 331 2010.01.27 21:57:02 Invalid charm specification, type 02010.01.27 21:57:02 program: d/Affiliations/Faculties/Empathic_Bonds/dmn/control.c, object: d/Affiliations/Faculties/Empathic_Bonds/dmn/control line 331 Jensendied 03:17, 28 January 2010 (EST)

Familiars and Bonding

Kudzu broke a bond with an alligator familiar, and the familiar didn't die --Kaballah 22:47, 7 February 2010 (EST) need more details to reproduce... Msb 14:26, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Elicat grants a number of affinities and resists, but they require assigned specialty points to start rather than just granting bonus specs like all the others I've seen. Is this intended? --Kaballah 01:36, 8 February 2010 (EST) yes, at first Msb 14:25, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Zetesai

Charms

Inspire wasn't working. Jensendied 03:17, 28 January 2010 (EST)

"Replenish Glands" charm (from Drake) does not seem to work. Gives "no noticeable effect" message.

Coven "Summon Loamflage" charm gave me a bug (logged)

Conversion rate of the Canalis charm is way out of whack compared to the damage delivered by the various special attacks - 100 to 3.6 at start, 100 to around 7 with 70ish elemental magick skills. If something costs 100 spellpoints it should be taking out enormous chunks of target health. --Kaballah 00:12, 1 February 2010 (EST)

Not necessarily. First of all, all your energy pools are in effect giving you bonus spell points (in terms of maximum capacity) to use on this stuff. Second of all, the conversion is only that bad because your skills for using that charm are horrible. Third of all, I tweaked the conversion rate of the charm slightly. Fourth of all, if the energy amounts need adjustment over time, I'll look at it. It's hard to compute a priori, since difference energies have different "potencies" (i.e. 1 point of elemental air is worth 5 points of spirit). Msb 11:16, 1 February 2010 (EST)

Current conversion rate after the tweak is much more agreeable, it's not like it's free but you don't burn the whole load killing a couple of rats either. Good change.--Kaballah 00:47, 2 February 2010 (EST)

The Canalis charm is a bit cryptic - the description in bond info says I can acquire fire, earth, etc types, but when I try to actually do the charm with a lower skilled character I get "You know of no 'fire' energy." The charm DOES work for my other character with higher mental stats/skills, so it looks like there is a skill check involved, but it's a bit mysterious - fairly sure it isn't the elemental -mancies, since I don't believe they get introduced until AFTER you fire some of the special attacks that Owl grants, but I don't see what other skill might be required (maybe arcane lore)? This could be more obvious as to why it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. --Kaballah 00:46, 2 February 2010 (EST)

would help if I used the correct syntax "elemental fire" etc--Kaballah 01:47, 2 February 2010 (EST)

The apagion "Channel Magick" attack maneuver does not use the Ergimancy skill, unlike the other attacks of the same type I've seen (Owl's e.g.) - would be nice to have some ability that actually used Ergimancy in the early-mid progression, although it does increase the Magick resource capacity, and would be more consistent with the other attack maneuvers. --Kaballah 20:58, 3 February 2010 (EST) This is deliberate and a little bit annoying to have reported on this problem page. Please keep it to bugs (either actual errors or things apparently not behaving as intended), typos, message discrepancies, and so on... thanks Msb 22:15, 3 February 2010 (EST) genuinely thought that was an oversight, sorry. --Kaballah 04:20, 4 February 2010 (EST)

Micropharmikon: "A soft white glow forms between} you and Mentos and then drifts towards you." (mismatched brace) --Kaballah 07:27, 3 February 2010 (EST) fixed, thanks Msb 09:07, 3 February 2010 (EST)

Starsee: Is the buff supposed to be applied to the familiar as well as the owner? Seems like it should be, like surge is, but it doesn't seem to grant the familiar astral perception - this isn't a feature suggestion, I think this may be an oversight? --Kaballah 19:08, 8 February 2010 (EST) not an oversight Msb 21:14, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Familiars and Bonding

Familiars and Dying

Possible bug in regenerating a famliar afte rit had died Nemesys 10:33, 28 January 2010 (EST) (fixed) Msb 09:08, 29 January 2010 (EST)


The Coven

Logging out gives "You drop a small aura." --Kaballah 23:02, 1 February 2010 (EST)

More than this, the aura is droppable and when dropped it messes up my guild quote style (possibly other things)--Kaballah 01:32, 2 February 2010 (EST) possibly fixed Msb 22:22, 2 February 2010 (EST)

Using the White Maiden illuminate arrow charm gives the message that I do not have enough entropic energy. Should be radiant energy, no? --12:28, 6 February 2010 (EST) fixed this and numerous related bugs Msb 12:37, 6 February 2010 (EST)


Steel Serpents

On the score page it says "Type 'help Steel Serpents' for information. Returns "No help is available on that topic."

On "list channels" the serpent channel is listed as "serpents", should just be "serpent"

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