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1 Discussion kickoff
2 Zet skills organized by max spec access and category
3 More data
4 Data Standardization Proposal
5 Data points start here

Discussion kickoff

Now that there are multiple of us actively trying to discover stuff in this guild I think this page can be fruitful for us to coordinate on some stuff. My first order of business is that I want to formally establish "what skills matter", and also establish a standard means for us to benchmark those skills for easier comparison.

I suspect the existence of some guild unlocks that require skill specs obtained either from bonds themselves, or from additional affils/autodidaction, but for the time being I'd like to put forward the following hypothesis: Max spec access granted by the guild is a meaningful indicator of it's importance for learning new morphologies. That in mind, my zetesai is an exomak wandslinger chaosborn so my transposition may be slightly inaccurate (some help here would be appreciated).

I've taken the liberty of splitting these up into some rough categories that I think may be relevant.

Zet skills organized by max spec access and category

Scholarly skill access:

20 Animal Lore, Biology, Cosmology
10 Insect Lore
8 Poison Lore, Gem Lore, Philosophy
2 Arcane Lore, Plant Lore, Elder Lore, Legend Lore, Astrology, Metaphysics, Metapsychology, Pataphysics, Physics, Psychology, Theology

Generic nerd skill access:

10 Scholarship, Critical Thinking, Literacy, Drawing, Memory

Bond growth skill access:

15 Empathy, Enchantment
10 Introspection
2 Mathematics

Medical and fieldcraft, and general adventuring skill access:

10 Anatomy, Chirurgery, First Aid, Diagnosis, Cartography, Steadiness, Exoma Fieldcraft, Space Fieldcraft, Umbral Fieldcraft
8 Orienteering, Foraging Navigation
5 Somatesthesia

Other skills:

We've been told explicitly that these skills impact valence, but not by how much. In the case of animaphrasty, we've also been told that it does NOT impact anything else.

5 Eudaimonia
13 Animaphrasty
2 Centering, Equilibrium

Conjuration minimum spec removed (as of 28/01/2022).

4 Conjuration

relevant quote, don't go nuts on this one

[2022 Jan 28 21:02] ( Zetesai Channel Crasher Marcosy ) at present theriophrasty is not used by anything in the guild, period
[2022 Jan 28 21:02] ( Zetesai Channel Crasher Marcosy ) that might change in the future but i doubt it
[2022 Jan 28 21:02] ( Zetesai Channel Crasher Marcosy ) but logically it is a thing your character would need in order to create bonds with animals

13 Theriophrasty

More data

We've now seen that the scope of skills involved in morphology unlocked is much broader than I initially anticipated and I'm increasingly convinced that the cherry-picking approach to skills is not a useful way to gather this type of data. In order to learn anything, we need skill snapshots from before and after an unlock event, and in the absence of definite knowledge of which skills are relevant we need to assume that they all are. The sections following this one will remain as they are, but I strongly encourage anyone who'd like to contribute to this project to use the methodology outlined on the google sheet.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Qe2vRHisYbNLgnVN3ugyzSEpr_yxyhjB1NKxPaxG4G0/edit#gid=0

As before, everyone is welcome to continue the discussion on this page or the guild channel. Feedback is welcome. --Stride 11:07, 15 March 2022 (EDT)

Data Standardization Proposal

None of us have seen then yet, but we've been told that there is a specific ~~chrondiptera~~ (at time of writing, chrondiptera was the only bond in the category insectan, which made the hint accurate, if misleading) morphology unlocked at 250 insect lore, which is a pretty huge hint both about the nature of the unlocks, and how to reach them.

We can theorize that a ~~polypid morphology exists at some amount of gem lore~~ confirmed no polypid morph, a ~~giftrager morphology at some amount of poison lore~~, and almost certainly some more general ones with sufficient levels of combined animal lore/biology/cosmology with other skills no doubt contributing in part or in entirety to other specific morphologies.

Since the first draft of this discussion we've learned that morphologies can't/won't target specific familiar_types, and that they are not limited to types within the original set of zetesai appropriate bonds (extraplanar + metaterenne). Thus it will likely be more fruitful to think about possible morphologies in terms of serpentine, avian, reptilian, rodentid, etc. And let that guide our studies rather than specific familiars.

Since these formulas are not visible to us and it will require a lot of roughly analogous data points to refine them I propose that we set a standard format for data that we immediately post whenever we reach an unlock breakpoint.

set alias zetlore to show skill animal lore, skill biology, skill cosmology, skill spirit lore, skill insect lore, skill poison lore, skill gem lore, skill philosophy, skill plant lore, skill elder lore, skill legend lore, skill theology, skill astrology
set alias zetvalence to show skill eudaimonia, skill animaphrasty, skill centering, skill equilibrium

We should work together to have these aliases include every data point we know to be relevant as well as every data point we think might be relevant. Since the only way we can learn anything concrete is to reach a new unlock threshold as the direct result of a known event it is absolutely critical that we pay attention to what's going on and pool our data.

Frustratingly, skills aren't the only relevant factor, so any data we collect will be subject to huge swings based on each of our individual progress with forming and mastering different bond and familiar types. These should also be included in our data postings. So here's my first draft for a standard data point, points we collect should be copy-pasted and added to the end of this document.

"set alias zetdata to help autometotic animaphresis;show level, quest points, exploration points;zetlore;zetvalence"
or
set alias zetdata to show level, quest points, exploration points, skill animal lore, skill biology, skill cosmology, skill spirit lore, skill insect lore, skill poison lore, skill gem lore, skill philosophy, skill plant lore, skill elder lore, skill legend lore, skill theology, skill astrology, skill eudaimonia, skill animaphrasty, skill centering, skill equilibrium

Incarnos: character's name
Unlock: The thing that got unlocked
Unlock Event: The thing I was doing that I believe caused this unlock (skill train, bond growth, exploration, attribute development? death? arbitrage? whatever I don't know)
Current Bonds: Familiar_type via Bond_Type at xx%, 
Previous Bond Experience: Pyx via Telo-Exogenic Archsymbiosis to 100%, Jing Shen via Telo-Exogenic Archsymbiosis to 109%
Known Morphologies: Telo-Exogenic Archsymbiosis, Temno-Exogenic Archsymbiosis, and Poly-Exogenic Archsymbiosis
Multivalence: one
You are level sixty-five.
   You have one hundred eighty-one quest points, 35.8% of the total possible.
   You have achieved twenty-three thousand nine hundred fifty-six exploration points, 78.8% of the total possible.
   You are an amazing ninth-degree scholar of animal lore (241).
   You are a fairly adept third-degree biologist (90).
   You are an adept second-degree cosmologist (97).
   You are a competent scholar of insect lore (38).
   You are an inept scholar of poison lore (17).
   You are a competent scholar of gem lore (39).
   You are a competent philosopher (39).
   You are a competent scholar of plant lore (38).
   You are a competent scholar of elder lore (39).
   You are a competent scholar of legend lore (40).
   You are a fairly competent eudaimoniast (35).
   You are a prodigious third-degree animaphrast (150).
   You are a masterful second-degree practitioner of centering (119), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an incredible level (199).
   You are a masterful second-degree practitioner of equilibrium (120), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an incredible level (200).

If anyone has any ideas for relevant fields that should be added, or think any should be removed then lets have the discussion on this page/the guild channel. I think it's important that we all agree on a standard for easier comparison. Maybe I'll make a project or excel sheet for parsing it in the future but we should start collecting data right away. For my part I intend to make a habit of doing a data point at the start and end of each play session to track progress, each time I see a new unlock I'll point my most recent data point, and one immediately following the unlock. --Stride 15:11, 28 January 2022 (EST)

Agun has generously volunteered to do some data analysis work for us over here. So if you'd like to instead use the alias on the following sheet, open up a page there. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Qe2vRHisYbNLgnVN3ugyzSEpr_yxyhjB1NKxPaxG4G0/edit#gid=0

Data points start here

Incarnos: Sifrara 
Unlock: Initial Sifrara data point 01/28/2022
Unlock Event: N/A.
Current Bonds: Chronodiptera via Telo-Exogenic Archsymbiosis at 20-29%, 
Previous Bond Experience: N/A (lagomorph at 11-19% in VV)
Known Morphologies: Telo-Exogenic Archsymbiosis, Temno-Exogenic Archsymbiosis, and Poly-Exogenic Archsymbiosis
Multivalence: two
   You are level twenty-nine.
   You have twenty-eight quest points, 5.5% of the total possible.
   You have achieved three thousand three hundred seven exploration points, 10.9% of the total
   possible.
   You are a prodigious fifth-degree scholar of animal lore (124).
   You are an incredible fifth-degree biologist (155).
   You are a prodigious fifth-degree cosmologist (142).
   You are an incredible eighth-degree scholar of insect lore (159).
   You have no ability at all in poison lore.
   You are an inept scholar of gem lore (20).
   You are an inept philosopher (19), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a fairly
   competent level (32).
   You are an unpracticed scholar of plant lore (28).
   You are an unpracticed scholar of elder lore (24).
   You are a fairly competent scholar of legend lore (32).
   You are a very inept third-degree eudaimoniast (10).
   You are an incredible fifth-degree animaphrast (200).
   You are an incredible seventh-degree practitioner of centering (170), though you appear to be
   effectively functioning at a slightly higher incredible level (190).
   You are an amazing seventh-degree practitioner of equilibrium (227), though you appear to be
   effectively functioning at a slightly higher amazing level (252).

Incarnos: Morph
Unlock: Initial Morph Data point 01/28/2022
Unlock Event: just chillin
Current Bonds: ifish via temno-exogenic archsymbiosis at 10-20%
Previous Bond Experience: Pyx via Telo-Exogenic Archsymbiosis to 100%, Jing Shen via Telo-Exogenic Archsymbiosis to 109%
Known Morphologies: Telo-Exogenic Archsymbiosis, Temno-Exogenic Archsymbiosis, and Poly-Exogenic Archsymbiosis
Multivalence: one
   You are level sixty-five.
   You have one hundred eighty-one quest points, 35.8% of the total possible.
   You have achieved twenty-three thousand nine hundred fifty-eight exploration points, 78.8% of the total possible.
   You are an amazing eighth-degree scholar of animal lore (218).
   You are a prodigious third-degree biologist (121).
   You are an expert second-degree cosmologist (108).
   You are a competent scholar of insect lore (38).
   You are an inept scholar of poison lore (17).
   You are a competent scholar of gem lore (39).
   You are a competent philosopher (39).
   You are a competent scholar of plant lore (39).
   You are a competent scholar of elder lore (39).
   You are a competent scholar of legend lore (40).
   You are a fairly competent eudaimoniast (35).
   You are a prodigious third-degree animaphrast (150).
   You are a masterful second-degree practitioner of centering (119), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an incredible level (199).
   You are a masterful second-degree practitioner of equilibrium (120), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an incredible level (200).

Incarnos: Morph
Unlock: Metaterrenic Archsymbiosis Morphology
Unlock Event: training at Knuric. biology probably. maybe erotic lore? carousing?
Current Bonds: ifish via temno-exogenic archsymbiosis at 10-20%
Previous Bond Experience: Pyx via Telo-Exogenic Archsymbiosis to 100%, Jing Shen via Telo-Exogenic Archsymbiosis to 109%
Known Morphologies: Telo-Exogenic Archsymbiosis, Temno-Exogenic Archsymbiosis, and Poly-Exogenic Archsymbiosis
Multivalence: one
   You are level sixty-five.
   You have one hundred eighty-one quest points, 35.8% of the total possible.
   You have achieved twenty-three thousand nine hundred fifty-eight exploration points, 78.8% of the total possible.
   You are an amazing eighth-degree scholar of animal lore (218).
   You are a prodigious third-degree biologist (124).
   You are an expert second-degree cosmologist (108).
   You are a competent scholar of insect lore (38).
   You are an inept scholar of poison lore (17).
   You are a competent scholar of gem lore (39).
   You are a competent philosopher (39).
   You are a competent scholar of plant lore (39).
   You are a competent scholar of elder lore (39).
   You are a competent scholar of legend lore (40).
   You are a fairly competent eudaimoniast (35).
   You are a prodigious third-degree animaphrast (150).
   You are a masterful second-degree practitioner of centering (119), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an incredible level (199).
   You are a masterful second-degree practitioner of equilibrium (120), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an incredible level (200).

Incarnos: Takayi
Unlock: Metaterrenic Archsymbiosis Morphology
Unlock Event: Training animal lore with Damon
Current Bonds Pyx via Temno-Exogenic Archsymbiosis at 75% + Chronodiptera via Poly-exogenic Archsymbiosis at 76%
Previous Bond Experiences: 100% Gleepli via Telo-Exogenic, 85% Jing Shen via Telo-Exogenic
Known Morphologies: Telo-Exogenic Archsymbiosis, Temno-Exogenic Archsymbiosis, and Poly-Exogenic Archsymbiosis (+Metaterrenic Archsymbiosis now)
Multivalence: two
   You are level fifty-three.
   You have three hundred three quest points, 59.9% of the total possible.
   You have achieved twenty-one thousand three hundred ninety-one exploration points, 70.3% of the total possible.
   You are an incredible fourth-degree scholar of animal lore (152).
   You are a prodigious third-degree biologist (148).
   You are a prodigious third-degree cosmologist (150).
   You are a fairly competent scholar of insect lore (35).
   You are a competent scholar of poison lore (37).
   You are a competent scholar of gem lore (39).
   You are a prodigious third-degree philosopher (146), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an incredible level (156).
   You are a competent scholar of plant lore (39).
   You are a competent scholar of elder lore (39).
   You are a competent scholar of legend lore (40).
   You are a competent nei dan zhiye (36). - Eudaimonia
   You are a prodigious third-degree animaphrast (138).
   You are a prodigious third-degree tao yin zhiye (146), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an incredible level (161). - Centering
   You are a prodigious third-degree wu wei zhiye (149), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an incredible level (154). - Equilibrium

Incarnos: Morph
Unlock: Just noticed Valence reached 2
Unlock Event: maybe breaking my complete temno? only noticed this morning, haven't done any training or anything yet.
Current Bonds: none
Previous Bond Experience: ifish via temno-exogenic to 101%
Known Morphologies: Telo-Exogenic, Temno-Exogenic, Poly-Exogenic, and Metaterrenic
Multivalence: two
   You are level sixty-six.
   You have one hundred eighty-one quest points, 35.8% of the total possible.
   You have achieved twenty-four thousand one hundred eighty-nine exploration points, 79.5% of the total possible.
   You are an amazing eighth-degree scholar of animal lore (227).
   You are a prodigious third-degree biologist (137).
   You are a masterful second-degree cosmologist (114).
   You are a competent scholar of insect lore (38).
   You are an inept scholar of poison lore (17).
   You are a competent scholar of gem lore (39).
   You are a competent philosopher (40).
   You are a competent scholar of plant lore (39).
   You are a competent scholar of elder lore (39).
   You are a competent scholar of legend lore (40).
   You are a proficient third-degree eudaimoniast (54).
   You are a prodigious third-degree animaphrast (150).
   You are a masterful second-degree practitioner of centering (119), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an incredible level (199).
   You are a masterful second-degree practitioner of equilibrium (120), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an incredible level (200).

Incarnos: Sifrara
Unlock: Poly-Anansic Archsymbiosis
Unlock Event: Killing a scavdrek, probably training insect lore
Current Bonds: Chronodiptera via Telo-exogenic archsymbiosis at 30-39%
Previous Bond Experience: N/A (lagomorph at 11-19% in VV)
Known Morphologies: Telo-Exogenic, Temno-Exogenic, Poly-Exogenic, Poly-Anansic
Multivalence: 2
   You are level thirty-two.
   You have thirty-one quest points, 6.1% of the total possible.
   You have achieved three thousand three hundred eighty-one exploration points, 11.1% of the total
   possible.
   You are a prodigious fifth-degree scholar of animal lore (137).
   You are an incredible fifth-degree biologist (157).
   You are a prodigious fifth-degree cosmologist (146).
   You are an amazing ninth-degree scholar of insect lore (238).
   You have no ability at all in poison lore.
   You are an unpracticed scholar of gem lore (23).
   You are an inept philosopher (20), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a fairly
   competent level (32).
   You are an unpracticed scholar of plant lore (29).
   You are an unpracticed scholar of elder lore (24).
   You are a fairly competent scholar of legend lore (32).
   You are a skilled third-degree eudaimoniast (75).
   You are an incredible fifth-degree animaphrast (200).
   You are an incredible seventh-degree practitioner of centering (188), though you appear to be
   effectively functioning at an amazing level (206).
   You are an amazing seventh-degree practitioner of equilibrium (234), though you appear to be
   effectively functioning at a slightly higher amazing level (258).

Incarnos: Morph
Unlock: Eido-Bastetic Archsymbiosis morphology, also just noticed I have 3 valence!
Unlock Event: Did a quest and then idled for a half hour, could have been bond xp, could have been madness related
Current Bonds: 40% sunray via metaterrenic archsymbiosis
Previous Bond Experience: ifish via temno-exogenic to 101%
Known Morphologies: Telo-Exogenic, Temno-Exogenic, Poly-Exogenic, Metaterrenic, and Eido-Bastetic
Multivalence: three!
   You are level sixty-eight.
   You have one hundred ninety-three quest points, 38.1% of the total possible.
   You have achieved twenty-four thousand three hundred fifteen exploration points, 79.9% of the total possible.
   You are an amazing eighth-degree scholar of animal lore (227), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a slightly lower amazing level (208).
   You are a prodigious third-degree biologist (137), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a masterful level (118).
   You are a masterful second-degree cosmologist (114), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a slightly lower masterful level (113).
   You are a competent scholar of insect lore (38), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an inept level (19).
   You are an inept scholar of poison lore (17), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a handicapped level (-2).
   You are a competent scholar of gem lore (39), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an inept level (20).
   You are a competent philosopher (40), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an unpracticed level (21).
   You are a competent scholar of plant lore (39), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an inept level (20).
   You are a competent scholar of elder lore (39), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an inept level (20).
   You are a competent scholar of legend lore (40), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an unpracticed level (21).
   You are a fairly skilled third-degree eudaimoniast (61), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a proficient level (60).
   You are a prodigious third-degree animaphrast (150), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a masterful level (120).
   You are a masterful second-degree practitioner of centering (119), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a supernal level (558).
   You are a masterful second-degree practitioner of equilibrium (120), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an amazing level (254).

Incarnos: Morph
Unlock: Eido-Fenric Archsymbiosis morphology
Unlock Event: was conjoined exploring liathyr on my sunray, almost certainly a result of bond growth
Current Bonds: 61% sunray via metaterrenic archsymbiosis
Previous Bond Experience: ifish via temno-exogenic to 101%
Known Morphologies: Telo-Exogenic, Temno-Exogenic, Poly-Exogenic, Metaterrenic, Eido-Bastetic, and Eido-Fenric
Multivalence: three
   You are level sixty-nine. (nice)
   You have two hundred one quest points, 39.7% of the total possible.
   You have achieved twenty-four thousand three hundred twenty-four exploration points, 80% of the total possible.
   You are an amazing eighth-degree scholar of animal lore (242), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a slightly lower amazing level (230).
   You are a prodigious third-degree biologist (141), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a slightly lower prodigious level (129).
   You are a masterful second-degree cosmologist (114), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a prodigious level (124).
   You are a competent scholar of insect lore (38), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an unpracticed level (26).
   You are an inept scholar of poison lore (17), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a very inept level (5).
   You are a competent scholar of gem lore (39), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an unpracticed level (27).
   You are a competent philosopher (40), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an unpracticed level (28).
   You are a competent scholar of plant lore (39), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an unpracticed level (27).
   You are a competent scholar of elder lore (39), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an unpracticed level (27).
   You are a competent scholar of legend lore (40), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an unpracticed level (28).
   You are a fairly skilled third-degree eudaimoniast (68).
   You are a prodigious third-degree animaphrast (150), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a slightly lower prodigious level (141).
   You are a masterful second-degree practitioner of centering (119), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a preternatural level (387).
   You are a masterful second-degree practitioner of equilibrium (120), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a supernal level (518).

Incarnos: Takayi
Unlock: Arch-Fenric Archsymbiosis morphology
Unlock Event: Got cured of a madness that dropped my theology
Current Bonds: sunray via Metaterrenic Archsymbiosis at 11-12%, 
Previous Bond Experience: Gleepli via Telo-Exogenic to 100%, Pyx via Temno-Exogenic to 101%, Chronodiptera via Poly-Exogenic to 100%
Known Morphologies: Telo-Exogenic Archsymbiosis, Temno-Exogenic Archsymbiosis, Poly-Exogenic Archsymbiosis, Metaterrenic Archsymbiosis, 
and Arch-Fenric Archsymbiosis 
Multivalence: two
You are level fifty-seven.
  You have three hundred eighteen quest points, 62.8% of the total possible.
  You have achieved twenty-three thousand two hundred ninety-one exploration points, 76.6% of the total possible.
  You are an incredible fourth-degree scholar of animal lore (170).
  You are a prodigious third-degree biologist (150).
  You are a prodigious third-degree cosmologist (150).
  You are a competent scholar of insect lore (37).
  You are a competent scholar of poison lore (37).
  You are a competent scholar of gem lore (39).
  You are a competent philosopher (40), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a proficient level (55).
  You are a competent scholar of plant lore (40).
  You are a competent scholar of elder lore (39).
  You are a competent scholar of legend lore (40).
  You are a fairly proficient first-degree nei dan zhiye (47).
  You are a prodigious third-degree animaphrast (144).
  You are a prodigious third-degree tao yin zhiye (147), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an amazing level (215).
  You are a prodigious third-degree wu wei zhiye (149), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an amazing level (234).
  You are an expert second-degree theologian (105).
  You are a prodigious third-degree leader (134).

Incarnos: Takayi
Unlock: Noticed Valance = 3
Unlock Event: Finished some exploration
Current Bonds: sunray via Metaterrenic Archsymbiosis at 30-31%, 
Previous Bond Experience: Gleepli via Telo-Exogenic to 100%, Pyx via Temno-Exogenic to 101%, Chronodiptera via Poly-Exogenic to 100%
Known Morphologies: Telo-Exogenic Archsymbiosis, Temno-Exogenic Archsymbiosis, Poly-Exogenic Archsymbiosis, Metaterrenic Archsymbiosis, 
and Arch-Fenric Archsymbiosis 
Multivalence: three
   You are level fifty-seven.
   You have three hundred eighteen quest points, 62.8% of the total possible.
   You have achieved twenty-three thousand three hundred ten exploration points, 76.6% of the total possible.
   You are an incredible fourth-degree scholar of animal lore (175), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a slightly lower incredible level (167).
   You are a prodigious third-degree biologist (150), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a slightly lower prodigious level (142).
   You are a prodigious third-degree cosmologist (150), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an incredible level (160).
   You are a competent scholar of insect lore (38), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an unpracticed level (30).
   You are a competent scholar of poison lore (37), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an unpracticed level (29).
   You are a competent scholar of gem lore (39), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a fairly competent level (31).
   You are a competent philosopher (40), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a fairly competent level (32).
   You are a competent scholar of plant lore (40), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a fairly competent level (32).
   You are a competent scholar of elder lore (39), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a fairly competent level (31).
   You are a competent scholar of legend lore (40), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a fairly competent level (32).
   You are a masterful second-degree theologian (111), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an expert level (103).
   You are a fairly proficient first-degree nei dan zhiye (47).
   You are a prodigious third-degree animaphrast (147).
   You are a prodigious third-degree tao yin zhiye (147), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an amazing level (230).
   You are a prodigious third-degree wu wei zhiye (150), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a preternatural level (371).
   You are a prodigious third-degree leader (141), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a slightly lower prodigious level (129).

Incarnos: Takayi
Unlock: Eido-Bastetic Archsymbiosis
Unlock Event: Level up followed by investing some points into int (probably just the xp/level up triggered it)
Current Bonds: Sunray via Metaterrenic at 48%, 
Previous Bond Experience: Gleepli via Telo-Exogenic to 100%, Pyx via Temno-Exogenic to 101%, Chronodiptera via Poly-Exogenic to 100%
Known Morphologies: Telo-Exogenic, Temno-Exogenic, Poly-Exogenic, Metaterrenic, Arch-Fenric and Eido-Bastetic
Multivalence: three
   You are level fifty-eight.
   You have three hundred thirty-five quest points, 66.2% of the total possible.
   You have achieved twenty-three thousand four hundred twenty-two exploration points, 77% of the total possible.
   You are an incredible fourth-degree scholar of animal lore (180), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a slightly lower incredible level (179).
   You are a prodigious third-degree biologist (150), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a slightly lower prodigious level (149).
   You are a prodigious third-degree cosmologist (150), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an incredible level (169).
   You are a competent scholar of insect lore (40), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a slightly lower competent level (39).
   You are a competent scholar of poison lore (39), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a slightly lower competent level (38).
   You are a competent scholar of gem lore (39), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a slightly lower competent level (38).
   You are a competent philosopher (40), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a proficient level (59).
   You are a competent scholar of plant lore (40), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a slightly lower competent level (39).
   You are a competent scholar of elder lore (40), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a slightly lower competent level (39).
   You are a competent scholar of legend lore (40), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a slightly lower competent level (39).
   You are a masterful second-degree theologian (119), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an incredible level (158).
   You are a fairly proficient first-degree nei dan zhiye (49).
   You are a prodigious third-degree animaphrast (150).
   You are a prodigious third-degree tao yin zhiye (149), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a preternatural level (344).
   You are a prodigious third-degree wu wei zhiye (150), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a preternatural level (307).
   You are a prodigious third-degree leader (145).

Incarnos: Introspection
Unlock: Temno-Tithonic Archsymbiosis
Unlock Event: Trained animal lore a little higher after reaching 250 insect lore
Current Bonds: Deathroach via Telo-Exogenic at very healthy
Previous Bond Experience: None
Known Morphologies: Telo-Exogenic
Multivalence: one
   You are level two hundred six.
   You have three hundred sixty-seven quest points, 72.5% of the total possible.
   You have achieved twenty thousand three hundred twenty exploration points, 66.8% of the total possible.
   You are a proficient second-degree scholar of animal lore (56).
   You are a fairly proficient first-degree biologist (44).
   You are a fairly proficient first-degree cosmologist (44).
   You are an amazing eleventh-degree scholar of insect lore (250).
   You are an inept scholar of poison lore (19).
   You are a competent scholar of gem lore (37), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a proficient level (55).
   You are a competent philosopher (39).
   You are a competent scholar of plant lore (39).
   You are a competent scholar of elder lore (39).
   You are a competent scholar of legend lore (40).
   You are a competent theologian (39), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a fairly proficient level (50).
   You are a competent fifth-degree eudaimoniast (40).
   You are an unskilled first-degree animaphrast (0).
   You are a masterful unspecialized, though still operating as second degree, practitioner of centering (119), and you appear to be effectively functioning at an incredible level (154).
   You are a masterful first-degree, though still operating as second degree, practitioner of equilibrium (120), and you appear to be effectively functioning at a prodigious level (126).

Incarnos: Takayi
Unlock: Arch-Bastetic Archsymbiosis
Unlock Event: Got buffed and healed by Yinvei (possibly the removal of mental disorder?)
Current Bonds: Elicat via Eido-Bastetic at 62%, 
Previous Bond Experience: Gleepli via Telo-Exogenic to 100%, Pyx via Temno-Exogenic to 101%, Chronodiptera via Poly-Exogenic to 100%, Sunray via Metaterrenic at 51%
Known Morphologies: Telo-Exogenic, Temno-Exogenic, Poly-Exogenic, Metaterrenic, Arch-Fenric, Eido-Bastetic and Arch-Bastetic
Multivalence: three
   You are level fifty-nine.
   You have three hundred forty-one quest points, 67.4% of the total possible.
   You have achieved twenty-three thousand six hundred seventy-six exploration points, 77.8% of the total possible.
   You are an incredible fifth-degree scholar of animal lore (199).
   You are a prodigious third-degree biologist (150).
   You are a prodigious third-degree cosmologist (150).
   You are a competent scholar of insect lore (40).
   You are a competent scholar of poison lore (40).
   You are a competent scholar of gem lore (40).
   You are a competent philosopher (40), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a fairly proficient level (44).
   You are a competent scholar of plant lore (40).
   You are a competent scholar of elder lore (40).
   You are a competent scholar of legend lore (40).
   You are a prodigious fourth-degree theologian (149), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an amazing level (205).
   You are a fairly skilled first-degree nei dan zhiye (65).
   You are a prodigious third-degree animaphrast (150).
   You are a prodigious third-degree tao yin zhiye (150), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an incredible level (178).
   You are a prodigious third-degree wu wei zhiye (150), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an incredible level (174).
   You are a prodigious third-degree leader (146), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a slightly higher prodigious level (149).

Incarnos: Introspection
Unlock: Poly-Tithonic Archsymbiosis
Unlock Event: Normal combat xp gain. Probably from bond increase?
Current Bonds: Chronodiptera via Telo-Exogenic at very healthy
Previous Bond Experience: 100% Deathroach via Telo-Exogenic
Known Morphologies: Telo-Exogenic, Temno-Tithonic, Temno-Exogenic, Poly-Tithonic
Multivalence: one
   You are level two hundred eight.
   You have three hundred sixty-seven quest points, 72.5% of the total possible.
   You have achieved twenty thousand five hundred forty-seven exploration points, 67.6% of the total possible.
   You are an incredible fourth-degree scholar of animal lore (176).
   You are a prodigious third-degree biologist (146).
   You are a prodigious third-degree cosmologist (147).
   You are an amazing eighth-degree scholar of insect lore (235).
   You are an inept scholar of poison lore (19).
   You are a competent scholar of gem lore (37).
   You are a competent philosopher (39), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a fairly skilled level (68).
   You are a competent scholar of plant lore (40).
   You are a competent scholar of elder lore (39).
   You are a competent scholar of legend lore (40).
   You are a competent theologian (39).
   You are a proficient fifth-degree eudaimoniast (55).
   You are a very inept first-degree animaphrast (2).
   You are a masterful unspecialized, though still operating as second degree, practitioner of centering (119).
   You are a masterful first-degree, though still operating as second degree, practitioner of equilibrium (120), and you appear to be effectively functioning at a prodigious level (138).

Incarnos: Takayi
Unlock: Eido-Fenric Archsymbiosis
Unlock Event: Training animal lore with Damon (hitting 200 in animal lore)
Current Bonds: Elicat via Eido-Bastetic at 85%, 
Previous Bond Experience: Gleepli via Telo-Exogenic to 100%, Pyx via Temno-Exogenic to 101%, Chronodiptera via Poly-Exogenic to 100%, Sunray via Metaterrenic to 51%
Known Morphologies: Telo-Exogenic, Temno-Exogenic, Poly-Exogenic, Metaterrenic, Arch-Fenric, Eido-Fenric, Eido-Bastetic and Arch-Bastetic
Multivalence: three
   You are level sixty.
   You have three hundred forty-one quest points, 67.4% of the total possible.
   You have achieved twenty-four thousand three hundred three exploration points, 79.9% of the total possible.
   You are an incredible sixth-degree scholar of animal lore (200).
   You are a prodigious third-degree biologist (150).
   You are a prodigious third-degree cosmologist (150).
   You are a competent scholar of insect lore (40).
   You are a competent scholar of poison lore (40).
   You are a competent scholar of gem lore (40).
   You are a competent philosopher (40), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a proficient level (60).
   You are a competent scholar of plant lore (40).
   You are a competent scholar of elder lore (40).
   You are a competent scholar of legend lore (40).
   You are an incredible fifth-degree theologian (163), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an amazing level (261).
   You are a fairly skilled first-degree nei dan zhiye (66).
   You are a prodigious third-degree animaphrast (150).
   You are a prodigious third-degree tao yin zhiye (150), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an amazing level (228).
   You are a prodigious third-degree wu wei zhiye (150), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an amazing level (208).
   You are a prodigious third-degree leader (146), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an incredible level (164).

Incarnos: Introspection
Unlock: Poly-Exogenic Archsymbiosis
Unlock Event: Trained Animal Lore
Current Bonds: Chronodiptera via Telo-Exogenic at ?
Previous Bond Experience: 100% Deathroach via Telo-Exogenic
Known Morphologies: Telo-Exogenic, Temno-Tithonic, Temno-Exogenic, Poly-Tithonic
Multivalence: two
   You are level two hundred nine.
   You have three hundred sixty-seven quest points, 72.5% of the total possible.
   You have achieved twenty thousand five hundred fifty-six exploration points, 67.6% of the total possible.
   You are an incredible fifth-degree scholar of animal lore (177).
   You are a prodigious third-degree biologist (146).
   You are a prodigious third-degree cosmologist (147).
   You are an amazing eighth-degree scholar of insect lore (247).
   You are an inept scholar of poison lore (19).
   You are a competent scholar of gem lore (37).
   You are a competent philosopher (39).
   You are a competent scholar of plant lore (40).
   You are a competent scholar of elder lore (39).
   You are a competent scholar of legend lore (40).
   You are a competent theologian (39).
   You are a fairly skilled fifth-degree eudaimoniast (62).
   You are a very inept first-degree animaphrast (2).
   You are a masterful unspecialized, though still operating as second degree, practitioner of centering (119).
   You are a masterful first-degree, though still operating as second degree, practitioner of equilibrium (120), and you appear to be effectively functioning at a prodigious level (144).

Incarnos: Introspection
Unlock: Poly-Anansic Archsymbiosis
Unlock Event: Combat xp
Current Bonds: Chronodiptera via Telo-Exogenic at 98%
Previous Bond Experience: 100% Deathroach via Telo-Exogenic
Known Morphologies: Telo-Exogenic, Temno-Tithonic, Temno-Exogenic, Poly-Tithonic, Poly-Exogenic
Multivalence: two
   You are level two hundred ten.
   You have three hundred sixty-seven quest points, 72.5% of the total possible.
   You have achieved twenty thousand five hundred eighty-four exploration points, 67.7% of the total possible.
   You are an incredible fifth-degree scholar of animal lore (178).
   You are a prodigious third-degree biologist (146).
   You are a prodigious third-degree cosmologist (147).
   You are an amazing eighth-degree scholar of insect lore (248).
   You are an inept scholar of poison lore (19).
   You are a competent scholar of gem lore (37).
   You are a competent philosopher (39).
   You are a competent scholar of plant lore (40).
   You are a competent scholar of elder lore (39).
   You are a competent scholar of legend lore (40).
   You are a competent theologian (39).
   You are a fairly skilled fifth-degree eudaimoniast (64).
   You are a very inept first-degree animaphrast (2).
   You are a masterful unspecialized, though still operating as second degree, practitioner of centering (119).
   You are a masterful first-degree, though still operating as second degree, practitioner of equilibrium (120), and you appear to be effectively functioning at a prodigious level (146).

Incarnos: Gorm
Unlock: Poly-Anansic Archsymbiosis
Unlock Event: Train all at Gwale just after hitting his insect lore cap (241)
Current Bonds: Polypid via temno-exogenic at just after hitting resilient.
Previous Bond Experience: -
Known Morphologies: Telo-Exogenic, Temno-Exogenic, Poly-Exogenic
Multivalence: one
   You are level eighteen.
   You have thirty-two quest points, 6.3% of the total possible.
   You have achieved five thousand four hundred twenty-five exploration points, 17.8% of the total possible.
   You are a fairly skilled first-degree scholar of animal lore (70).
   You are a skilled first-degree biologist (74).
   You are a fairly skilled first-degree cosmologist (64).
   You are an amazing tenth-degree scholar of insect lore (241).
   You are an inept scholar of poison lore (17).
   You are a fairly skilled first-degree scholar of gem lore (62), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a fairly adept level (82).
   You are an unskilled philosopher, though you appear to be effectively functioning at a very inept level (4).
   You are an unpracticed scholar of plant lore (26).
   You are a fairly competent scholar of elder lore (31).
   You are a competent scholar of legend lore (38).
   You are a competent theologian (38), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a fairly proficient level (42).
   You do not know of any skill called 'eudaimonia'.
   You are a fairly proficient first-degree animaphrast (46).
   You are an expert second-degree practitioner of centering (109), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an incredible level (151).
   You are an expert second-degree practitioner of equilibrium (109), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a prodigious level (146).

Incarnos: Introspection
Unlock: Temno-Anansic Archsymbiosis
Unlock Event: Leveled up (Also around the time of 100% third bond)
Current Bonds: ifish via Poly-Exogenic at 100%, pyx via Temno-Exogenic at 86%
Previous Bond Experience: 100% Deathroach via Telo-Exogenic, 100% Chronodiptera via Telo-Exogenic
Known Morphologies: Telo-Exogenic, Metaterrenic, Temno-Tithonic, Temno-Exogenic, Poly-Tithonic, Poly-Exogenic, Poly-Anansic
Multivalence: two
   You are level two hundred twelve.
   You have three hundred sixty-seven quest points, 72.5% of the total possible.
   You have achieved twenty thousand five hundred ninety exploration points, 67.7% of the total possible.
   You are an incredible fifth-degree scholar of animal lore (180).
   You are a prodigious third-degree biologist (146).
   You are a prodigious third-degree cosmologist (147).
   You are an amazing eighth-degree scholar of insect lore (250).
   You are an inept scholar of poison lore (19).
   You are a competent scholar of gem lore (37).
   You are a competent philosopher (39).
   You are a competent scholar of plant lore (40).
   You are a competent scholar of elder lore (39).
   You are a competent scholar of legend lore (40).
   You are a competent theologian (39).
   You are a fairly adept fifth-degree eudaimoniast (83).
   You are a proficient first-degree animaphrast (51).
   You are a masterful unspecialized, though still operating as second degree, practitioner of centering (119).
   You are a masterful first-degree, though still operating as second degree, practitioner of equilibrium (120).

Incarnos: Morph
Unlock: None. I just hit 300 unmodified animal lore and wanted to document it
Unlock Event: After reaching 300 animal lore I went and got about half a level worth of xp, and did some exploration, growing my current bond by about 5%. Did not see any unlocks. Will be re-investing specs elsewhere.
 Current Bonds: 55% cadagion via telo-exogenic archsymbiosis
 Previous Bond Experience: 100% pyx via telo-exogenic, 109% jing shen via telo-exogenic, 101% ifish via temno-exogenic, 100% sunray via metaterrenic, 101% smilodon via eido-bastetic, 109% apagion via poly-exogenic 
 Known Morphologies: Telo-Exogenic, Temno-Exogenic, Poly-Exogenic, Metaterrenic, Eido-Bastetic, and Eido-Fenric
 Multivalence: three
You are level eighty-six.
    You have two hundred twenty-one quest points, 43.7% of the total possible.
    You have achieved twenty-five thousand nine hundred ninety exploration points, 85.5% of the total possible.
You are an amazing twelfth-degree scholar of animal lore (300), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a preternatural level (322).
    You are a prodigious third-degree biologist (148).
    You are a prodigious third-degree cosmologist (139).
    You are a competent scholar of insect lore (39).
    You are a fairly competent scholar of poison lore (33).
    You are a competent scholar of gem lore (40).
    You are a competent philosopher (40).
    You are a competent scholar of plant lore (40).
    You are a competent scholar of elder lore (40).
    You are a competent scholar of legend lore (40).
    You are a competent theologian (40), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a masterful level (120).
You are a prodigious third-degree eudaimoniast (137).
    You are a prodigious third-degree animaphrast (150).
    You are a masterful second-degree practitioner of centering (119), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an amazing level (231).
    You are a masterful second-degree practitioner of equilibrium (120), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an incredible level (200).

Incarnos: Morph
Unlock: Discovered Arch-Fenric Archsymbiosis
Unlock Event: did some training at zrael, logged off (to do training on other characters), logged back in on morph and it appeared.
 Current Bonds: 83% cadagion via telo-exogenic archsymbiosis
 Previous Bond Experience: 100% pyx via telo-exogenic, 109% jing shen via telo-exogenic, 101% ifish via temno-exogenic, 100% sunray via metaterrenic, 101% smilodon via eido-bastetic, 109% apagion via poly-exogenic 
 Known Morphologies: Telo-Exogenic, Temno-Exogenic, Poly-Exogenic, Metaterrenic, Eido-Bastetic, Eido-Fenric, and Arch-Fenric.
 Multivalence: three
You are level ninety-one.
    You have two hundred twenty-one quest points, 43.7% of the total possible.
    You have achieved twenty-six thousand two exploration points, 85.5% of the total possible.
You are an incredible fourth-degree scholar of animal lore (177), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a slightly higher incredible level (199).
    You are an incredible fourth-degree biologist (170).
    You are an amazing tenth-degree cosmologist (254).
    You are a fairly skilled first-degree spiritualist (62).
    You are a competent scholar of insect lore (40).
    You are a competent scholar of poison lore (38).
    You are a competent scholar of gem lore (40).
    You are a competent philosopher (40).
    You are a competent scholar of plant lore (40).
    You are a competent scholar of elder lore (40).
    You are a competent scholar of legend lore (40).
    You are a competent theologian (40), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a masterful level (120).
    You are a fairly skilled first-degree astrologer (61).
You are a prodigious third-degree eudaimoniast (142).
    You are a prodigious third-degree animaphrast (150).
    You are a masterful second-degree practitioner of centering (120), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an amazing level (238).
    You are a masterful second-degree practitioner of equilibrium (120), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an incredible level (200).

Incarnos: Morph
Unlock: Discovered Temno-Transgenic Archsymbiosis
Unlock Event: Died, rezed, wore confabulous thingamabob, aeda's grace materialized. Maybe just a delayed event after reaching new skills breakpoint? base scholarship is really high now. (247)
 Current Bonds: 94% Sleipnir via telo-exogenic archsymbiosis
 Previous Bond Experience: 100% pyx via telo-exogenic, 109% jing shen via telo-exogenic, 101% ifish via temno-exogenic, 100% sunray via metaterrenic, 101% smilodon via eido-bastetic, 109% apagion via poly-exogenic, 101% cadagion via telo-exogenic 
 Known Morphologies: Telo-Exogenic, Temno-Exogenic, Poly-Exogenic, Metaterrenic, Eido-Bastetic, Eido-Fenric, Arch-Fenric, and Temno-Transgenic.
 Multivalence: three
You are level one hundred two.
    You have two hundred thirty-six quest points, 46.6% of the total possible.
    You have achieved twenty-six thousand twenty-three exploration points, 85.6% of the total possible.
You are an incredible fifth-degree scholar of animal lore (200), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an amazing level (247).
    You are an incredible fifth-degree biologist (200), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an amazing level (247).
    You are an incredible fifth-degree cosmologist (192).
    You are a competent spiritualist (40).
    You are a competent scholar of insect lore (40), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a fairly adept level (87).
    You are a competent scholar of poison lore (40).
    You are a competent scholar of gem lore (40).
    You are an amazing eighth-degree scholar (247), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a slightly higher amazing level (272).
    You are a competent philosopher (40), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a proficient level (57).
    You are a competent scholar of plant lore (40), though you appear to be effectively functioning at a fairly adept level (87).
    You are a competent scholar of elder lore (40).
    You are a competent scholar of legend lore (40).
    You are a competent theologian (40), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an incredible level (154).
    You are a competent astrologer (40).
You are a prodigious third-degree eudaimoniast (149).
    You are a prodigious third-degree animaphrast (150).
    You are a masterful second-degree practitioner of centering (120), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an amazing level (272).
    You are a masterful second-degree practitioner of equilibrium (120), though you appear to be effectively functioning at an amazing level (260).

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