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| I'm in two minds about Jhan, on one side it is one of the few real cities near Losthaven which would be allied with it, on the other hand it's had a close relationship with Camelot since the very beginning. I think they Questors and Justicars relationship of being /pure/ order to the point of accepting evil races and guilds is actually perhaps not fitting in with my idea of what would be acceptable to the background. I see them as being zealots and even a few slipping so far as to be 'evil', but not in the obvious 'we have a ringwraith protector'. I don't think it'd be necessarily frowned upon or being a limit to joining your good/evil alignment but I think certain guilds and too obviously evil races/guilds WOULD be prohibited. Basically I see Jhan as being the ally of Camelot but more hardcore. I think they're the Crusader Bastits who fight fire with fire and in effect there' little difference between them and the.... I can go on for hours I think without being any clearer, but I hope you get what I mean. As my old astronomy teacher used to say: In resume I think Jhan is a part of Avalon. --[[User:Aedhan|Aedhan]] 20:36, 27 May 2008 (EDT) | I'm in two minds about Jhan, on one side it is one of the few real cities near Losthaven which would be allied with it, on the other hand it's had a close relationship with Camelot since the very beginning. I think they Questors and Justicars relationship of being /pure/ order to the point of accepting evil races and guilds is actually perhaps not fitting in with my idea of what would be acceptable to the background. I see them as being zealots and even a few slipping so far as to be 'evil', but not in the obvious 'we have a ringwraith protector'. I don't think it'd be necessarily frowned upon or being a limit to joining your good/evil alignment but I think certain guilds and too obviously evil races/guilds WOULD be prohibited. Basically I see Jhan as being the ally of Camelot but more hardcore. I think they're the Crusader Bastits who fight fire with fire and in effect there' little difference between them and the.... I can go on for hours I think without being any clearer, but I hope you get what I mean. As my old astronomy teacher used to say: In resume I think Jhan is a part of Avalon. --[[User:Aedhan|Aedhan]] 20:36, 27 May 2008 (EDT) | ||
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| + | 1) Jhan is more order-y than goody. You can be barely good and Tyr will tolerate you, but if you're not ordered up the arse Strom and the Justicars'll get all bent out of shape. See guild skills like order favour. | ||
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| + | Contrast with Knights, they're all about the holy. Holy purity, fortitude, etc. Order is obviously important to them, but they're more about the good. | ||
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| + | They're just on different places on the whole scheme of things. | ||
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| + | 2) Jhan can tolerate Merethus because he's all about the order. He's slightly insane, but nothing about him screams evil. And the Ringwielders are pretty...sly...these days. They're more about the subtle corruption-for-power tradeoff then the in-your-face evil of a Reaper. Merethus, is, in essence, a plant. | ||
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A category has been created and linked where appropriate. -Zyll 21:36, 20 March 2008 (EDT)
Anyone have any input on which areas might thematically fit better with Avalon than with Almeria? Due to the fact that once everything is done, Camelot will be moved to Avalon, I figured that it might be useful/appropriate to move the Green Chapel to Avalon as well, since it was based upon (at least partially) the tales of the Green Knight. I do not know the exact inspiration for Arborlon, but I could make that work as well. Thoughts? --Bladestorm 13:37, 27 May 2008 (EDT)
I think the Green Chapel is a natural Avalon project; Arborlon, not so much. One thing about Avalon is that it's basically a buffer between Almeria and Ahrikol's Esartur, across the ocean to the east, so it should be a kinda tough, militarized kind of place that views Almeria as soft. Like the human cities near Mordor in Tolkein. Arborlon seems to be this sheltered fey-races homeland type place, and probably wouldn't last long on Avalon. —Chaos 13:53, 27 May 2008 (EDT)
I'm in two minds about Jhan, on one side it is one of the few real cities near Losthaven which would be allied with it, on the other hand it's had a close relationship with Camelot since the very beginning. I think they Questors and Justicars relationship of being /pure/ order to the point of accepting evil races and guilds is actually perhaps not fitting in with my idea of what would be acceptable to the background. I see them as being zealots and even a few slipping so far as to be 'evil', but not in the obvious 'we have a ringwraith protector'. I don't think it'd be necessarily frowned upon or being a limit to joining your good/evil alignment but I think certain guilds and too obviously evil races/guilds WOULD be prohibited. Basically I see Jhan as being the ally of Camelot but more hardcore. I think they're the Crusader Bastits who fight fire with fire and in effect there' little difference between them and the.... I can go on for hours I think without being any clearer, but I hope you get what I mean. As my old astronomy teacher used to say: In resume I think Jhan is a part of Avalon. --Aedhan 20:36, 27 May 2008 (EDT)
Just opinions: 1) Jhan is more order-y than goody. You can be barely good and Tyr will tolerate you, but if you're not ordered up the arse Strom and the Justicars'll get all bent out of shape. See guild skills like order favour.
Contrast with Knights, they're all about the holy. Holy purity, fortitude, etc. Order is obviously important to them, but they're more about the good.
They're just on different places on the whole scheme of things.
2) Jhan can tolerate Merethus because he's all about the order. He's slightly insane, but nothing about him screams evil. And the Ringwielders are pretty...sly...these days. They're more about the subtle corruption-for-power tradeoff then the in-your-face evil of a Reaper. Merethus, is, in essence, a plant.
